State sponsored doping, switching of samples, is a whole world away from not actually
Breaking any rules.
Gaming the TUES rules is morally questionable, what the Russians have done is something else entirely.
But you're doing exactly what they want you to do.
It'd be like the Tories comparing paying a window cleaner £10 in cash to avoid income tax to fraud carried out on an industrial scale by a major investment bank
Posted By: Ralf Scrampton on September 27th 2016 at 08:35:07
Message Thread
- NBTTT: Wiggins (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 07:40:18
- Wiggins' former doctor said it didn't look right (General Chat) - Old Man, Sep 27, 09:43:17
- It's the 'former' but I find suspicious. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 09:45:56
- different team, no need for fall out, but Garmin-Slipstream (as was) is the team David (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 27, 09:59:43
- So works for a competitor... Nothing to gain from sticking in the knife... (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 10:18:23
- comes from a different team with a different ethos - doesn't have to be personal does it? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 27, 10:23:33
- So works for a competitor... Nothing to gain from sticking in the knife... (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 10:18:23
- different team, no need for fall out, but Garmin-Slipstream (as was) is the team David (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 27, 09:59:43
- It's the 'former' but I find suspicious. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 09:45:56
- he got caught out, unlucky. (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 27, 08:44:06
- Pack of deceit really??? (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Sep 27, 08:55:30
- To be fair it is a bit iffy. He's now saying (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 27, 09:14:56
- Where do you draw the line though... (General Chat) - loz, Sep 27, 09:24:15
- I have no idea. Just saying not helpful that he said that in his book. To be (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 27, 09:31:29
- Point noted but... (General Chat) - loz, Sep 27, 10:10:59
- I have no idea. Just saying not helpful that he said that in his book. To be (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 27, 09:31:29
- Where do you draw the line though... (General Chat) - loz, Sep 27, 09:24:15
- ha yes sorry, i meant the truth the whole truth and nothing but... (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 27, 09:00:47
- To be fair it is a bit iffy. He's now saying (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 27, 09:14:56
- Pack of deceit really??? (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Sep 27, 08:55:30
- what about football though, do we really believe it's as clean as it seems? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 27, 08:31:25
- That's how I feel. He would have had to go through doctors and authorities to get the (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 27, 08:20:28
- erm, it's two entirely different things (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 27, 08:51:11
- I'' not saying 'take whatever you want'. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 08:58:14
- I hadn't read this ☝ before posting 👇but, absolutely ☺ (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 27, 08:37:54
- erm, it's two entirely different things (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 27, 08:51:11
- OK what if an athlete has arthritis (General Chat) - CauldRon, Sep 27, 08:14:17
- But we can't be sure he did get a boost above base condition. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 08:18:32
- That's the problem though - we can't be sure he didn't (General Chat) - CauldRon, Sep 27, 08:24:52
- State sponsored doping, switching of samples, is a whole world away from not actually (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 27, 08:35:07
- Bollocks. You're clean or you're not (n/m) (General Chat) - CauldRon, Sep 27, 09:05:28
- nicely contradicting yourself there (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 27, 10:02:56
- Don't think it's as clear cut as that. (n/m) (General Chat) - bird table, Sep 27, 09:25:54
- It should be though (n/m) (General Chat) - yellowman, Sep 27, 10:00:43
- which is what they do to disability benefit claimants innit. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 27, 08:44:38
- Bollocks. You're clean or you're not (n/m) (General Chat) - CauldRon, Sep 27, 09:05:28
- Wow, thats a bit of stretch. State sponsored doping of athletes with no medical reason (General Chat) - megson, Sep 27, 08:32:30
- Tbf, it's about all we do have to throw (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Sep 27, 10:42:19
- State sponsored doping, switching of samples, is a whole world away from not actually (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 27, 08:35:07
- That's the problem though - we can't be sure he didn't (General Chat) - CauldRon, Sep 27, 08:24:52
- But we can't be sure he did get a boost above base condition. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 08:18:32
- the UCI's record of rigour and integrity isn't exactly great (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 27, 08:03:14
- I've been on prednisolone which is a corticosteroid, for nearly 8 years, they're definite (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 27, 08:18:39
- Enter the Tour Proth! (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 08:19:32
- Ha, maybe I should 😊! (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 27, 08:23:32
- Enter the Tour Proth! (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 08:19:32
- I've been on prednisolone which is a corticosteroid, for nearly 8 years, they're definite (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 27, 08:18:39
- Wiggins' former doctor said it didn't look right (General Chat) - Old Man, Sep 27, 09:43:17
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