apart from there being nothing but discussing immigration

perhaps if Labour had spent a bit of time actually promoting the benefits of immigration instead of apologising for it or selling mugs promising to crack down on it...

Posted By: Ralf Scrampton on June 14th 2016 at 16:41:03

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I hate to post this, but i must. (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 16:01:25
- We are here because we've refused to have a debate about immigration (General Chat) - megson, Jun 14, 16:33:31
  - It's become an emotional argument and hence the facts are irrelevant. (General Chat) - APB, Jun 14, 17:37:27
  - apart from there being nothing but discussing immigration (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 16:41:03
    - Well, think about what eu immigration does for you , and what it might do for people w. (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 16:43:06
      - pays more taxes for a start, will certainly help dampen that demographic time-bomb too (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 16:51:11
        
        Points based system deals with all of these points (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 14, 17:01:00
        
        that money getting spent in this country works as a multiplier creating more jobs (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 16:52:43
        
        No, that's bullshit, ieasrern European car washes and super markets (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 16:56:06
        
        they spend their earnings from washing cars in pubs and shops (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 17:01:24
        
        And who gets those jobs? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 17:13:30
        
        unemployed people, school leavers those what have stopped looking for a job in a factory (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 17:15:25
        
        I heard that both our factory-jobs were already taken? (n/m) (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Jun 14, 17:54:35
        
        Bullshit.not that you'd know, nor admit. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 17:17:01
        
        Fair enough, but if you can't get a factory job it means fuck all. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 16:52:41
        
        it'd mean less taxes taken in by the governement, which leads to less money for them to sp (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 16:56:34
        
        Again, if you can't get a factory job what does it mean? nowt. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 16:58:13
        
        Why are the factories employing EU migrants rather than working class British? (n/m) (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 14, 17:44:00
        
        Because... (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 14, 17:48:30
        
        it means you've got even less chance of getting a job and having to live on less money whi (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 17:06:08
        
        Yup. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 17:07:39
        
        good, i'm glad you agree that immigration is a good thing that creates jobs and keeps the (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 17:12:03
        
        Yes, for you. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 17:14:49
        
        yes, for the working class, dragged up in a council house, leaving school at 16 (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 17:18:02
        
        My point being , again, That you aren't working class, you were but aren't (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 17:23:17
        
        it affects us all Proth, not in a false tory 'we're all in this together' bullshit way (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 17:27:47
        
        But what is lost amid all the scaremongering is that the country would not be a (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 14, 17:52:22
        
        it's all relative and cummulative Jim, if you think it's a price worth paying that's up to (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 18:20:58
        
        Yes but it just illustrates the myths put our there by both sides in this campaign (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 14, 18:36:41
        
        No Jim, a recession does make us, as a country, worse off (that's a fact) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 19:20:13
        
        Would that be like the recession we had 8 yrs ago?...... (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 14, 19:47:01
        
        yes, exactly like other recessions, where each and everytime it's the poorest that are hit (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 19:54:11
        
        I'm not talking Benidorm instead of Barcelona bad..... (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 14, 20:03:45
        
        I mean.... (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 14, 20:08:07
        
        it gets worse for them. That's what happens. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 20:12:29
        
        if we leave that is, it all gets worse for the poorest (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 20:14:27
        
        more of the same then!..... (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 14, 20:26:55
        
        no Jim, it's (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 14, 19:10:46
        
        I do see that, i just need to get people's views across (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 17:33:49
        
        And how much do you earn a year? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 17:19:23
      - I th limited qualifications. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 16:43:41
        
        .. and brain cells. Idiot ! (n/m) (General Chat) - stowch, Jun 14, 17:50:57
  - Yep,but working class, under qualified people genuinely do fear for their jobs (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 16:40:18
    - "under qualified people" (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 14, 17:24:34
      - I'm sure it was, but look at the canning industry in Kings Lynn. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 17:29:10
- It's just too easy to dismiss working class voices and many on here do and have. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 14, 16:02:51
  - I voted two weeks ago - postal vote (General Chat) - Highlander, Jun 14, 16:51:57
  - I'm just bored with the campaigns now. Just bring on the 23rd and get it over with. (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 14, 16:11:30
    - Remain prob still win easily ... (General Chat) - loz, Jun 14, 17:45:21

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