AV marginalises small parties almost as much as FPTP

PR is the way forward

Posted By: phrankin on April 1st 2015 at 11:03:51

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Reading all the opinion polls I can't quite get my head around the fact the SNP (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 1, 08:58:05
- When there's a hung parliament again, the Tories must hate the fact that Labour will have (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 10:28:31
  - I think everyone will hate it (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Apr 1, 15:59:21
  - They wouldn't necessarily need a coalition (NCFC) - Sellbydave, Apr 1, 14:22:20
  - I wouldn't mind it - they'd last 2 years max before a re-election is called (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 1, 11:18:55
    - Don't they have to have 5 year terms now? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ben, Apr 1, 12:34:39
      - can dissolve early if 2/3 vote for it or if they lose a vote of no confidence (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 1, 12:51:11
    - On the flip side, if you have a different government other than the Tories (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 11:33:15
      - As the parties morph into whatever it takes to win the election I don't think it really ma (NCFC) - Men without hats, Apr 1, 12:11:39
      - ok, that begs the question (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 1, 11:44:29
        
        A lot of the good things from the last five years are due to Brown's legacy (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 11:47:41
      - or rich - or both (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Apr 1, 11:34:21
    - A coalition of the SNP and Labour would seriously harm Labour's future chances (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 11:28:30
  - They won't based on the most recent polls but if that did happen then (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 1, 10:40:21
    - I've stuck a tenner at fives on a Tory majority (NCFC) - norway, Apr 1, 10:50:02
      - Maybe. You feel this tv debate is probably pretty crucial for Miliband (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 1, 10:53:49
        
        Cameron froze against Paxman, Miliband didn't. (NCFC) - norway, Apr 1, 10:57:31
        
        Confirmation bias (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 1, 11:20:47
        
        No. (NCFC) - norway, Apr 1, 11:49:45
        
        I just laughed when Miliband did his "who cares" and "hell yes i'm tough enough" lines (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 1, 11:06:32
        
        Confirmation bias (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 1, 11:21:04
  - All of England should hate the idea of the SNP being in power (NCFC) - Ben, Apr 1, 10:39:29
    - depends on if you hope for radical change - the break up of the union would certainly be t (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 1, 10:58:22
      - Or just Scotland getting more and more money from England every time Labour want to win a vote (n/m) (NCFC) - Ben, Apr 1, 12:30:17
- Which way did you vote in the AV referendum? (n/m) (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Apr 1, 09:24:57
  - AV marginalises small parties almost as much as FPTP (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 1, 11:03:51
  - I didn't vote in it. Would be interesting to see the outcome of such a vote now (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 1, 09:58:23
    - Did you not notice the Lib Dems winning less than 9% of seats at the last election (NCFC) - norway, Apr 1, 10:05:07
      - To be fair it is potentially a less equitable outcome for the country because (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 1, 10:48:15
        
        you do know there were elections before 2010 don't you? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 1, 10:49:45
        
        Yes I do. Why so hostile? I am well aware that under the FPTP system (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 1, 10:59:34
        
        you are using it for cheap points scoring though with your crying over how it might be unf (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 1, 11:33:34
        
        It would be unfair. (NCFC) - Garry Brooke, Apr 1, 11:49:16
        
        It's no more unfair for Scotland's SNP MPs to inflict a Labour government on England than (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 1, 12:02:55
        
        and has already been unfair on the country of Scotland (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 1, 11:52:21
        
        depends on whether you see them as a minority party though? (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 1, 11:22:50
        
        Scotland has always had a voice in the government of the UK! (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 1, 11:43:27
        
        ... (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 1, 11:04:40
      - more arrows (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 1, 10:07:43
  - Arrows (NCFC) - megson, Apr 1, 09:40:38
- i've just had a good look at it for you (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 1, 09:12:13
- It's just a quirk of First Past The Post (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 1, 09:07:07
  - Just going to be really galling if that fat c**t Salmond is lording it down in Westminster (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 1, 09:14:17
    - As galling as Cameron and Osborne? With his chum (NCFC) - pants, Apr 1, 10:30:33
    - My curiosity having been aroused (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 1, 09:49:27
      - Yes i looked at the pop stats as well and it seems they are not (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 1, 10:01:45

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