Wow

As I said yesterday, rape trials are such difficult businesses. So hard to prove beyond all doubt - particularly if initial contact/meeting is consensual.

Thoughts with the girl and her family obviously.

Posted By: norway on April 20th 2012 at 15:29:37

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Port vales clayton mcdonald found not guilty of rape. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 20, 15:22:38
- Ched found guilty. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 20, 15:23:31
  - that will stop pants telling us everytime he scored a goal (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Apr 20, 17:01:10
  - Sounded vile and predatory (General Chat) - inutero, Apr 20, 15:54:39
    - I give her 3 months until the book/newspaper deal is released (n/m) (General Chat) - Ben, Apr 20, 16:03:57
      - Have a word. (n/m) (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Apr 21, 05:58:05
      - The day i got raped by footballers (General Chat) - ghost of rob butler, Apr 20, 17:50:23
        
        footballer. One was found not guilty. (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 20, 17:53:25
        
        you bored? (n/m) (General Chat) - ghost of rob butler, Apr 20, 18:20:28
      - wow (n/m) (General Chat) - Lambert, Apr 20, 16:46:38
      - For fucks sake. (n/m) (General Chat) - Yellalee, Apr 20, 16:25:02
      - You do occasionally express really unpleasant viewsd on things, Ben (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 20, 16:19:13
        
        What does right wing have to do with this (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Apr 20, 16:23:04
        
        simply that right-wingers have a tendency to hold humanity in fairly low regard (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 20, 16:24:50
        
        I disagree, the right believes people are capable of doing things for themselves (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 21, 00:13:10
        
        Wow (General Chat) - norway, Apr 20, 16:26:34
        
        not at all. one of the defining characteristics of conservatism (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 20, 16:42:27
        
        It obviously doesn't... (General Chat) - POA, Apr 20, 18:17:58
        
        You just need to look at the Daily Mail (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 20, 16:52:58
        
        Whereas all Lefties love women (General Chat) - NorthantsYella, Apr 20, 18:02:04
        
        Well, we were talking about the right (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 20, 18:38:48
        
        Oh racism too. (General Chat) - NorthantsYella, Apr 21, 08:58:26
        
        Yes I wondered that. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 20, 16:24:30
      - out of order (n/m) (General Chat) - asics_kit, Apr 20, 16:18:22
      - ... (General Chat) - SCC 28, Apr 20, 16:13:54
      - I think that's a fairly disgusting comment (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Apr 20, 16:09:22
        
        so drunk she couldn't remember what she was doing... (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 20, 16:17:26
        
        Ah the age old "Women, Don't Get Yourself Raped" thing. As a man I find it offensive (General Chat) - megson, Apr 20, 16:26:48
        
        If he was sober I entirely understand - looks completely predatory (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 20, 16:42:06
        
        I may be wrong (General Chat) - duke of york, Apr 20, 16:26:13
        
        she said "her drinks must have been spiked" (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 20, 16:29:37
        
        If she were to sell her story, pan her for it then, until then people should show (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Apr 20, 16:24:38
        
        and? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 20, 16:20:36
        
        She put out easily enough to the first one. who was not guilty of rape (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 20, 16:23:55
        
        There is not a shred of evidence that she 'put out' (General Chat) - norway, Apr 20, 16:25:54
        
        she maintained that she couldn't remember anything (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 20, 16:27:37
        
        So you agree she didn't consent then? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Apr 20, 22:20:55
        
        under the law if she is very drunk then it matters not whether she did or did not (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 21, 00:06:43
        
        And honestly mate I don't know the details (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 21, 00:16:39
        
        Albeit she must have accused both (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Apr 20, 16:25:16
        
        She hasn't got a clue what happened (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 20, 16:27:12
        
        So how can you say, "She put out easily enough to the first one" then? (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Apr 20, 16:28:44
        
        I think the ruling was (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 20, 16:55:53
        
        I'm aware of that, you haven't answered my question (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Apr 20, 17:45:28
        
        I have no idea if she put out (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 20, 17:50:10
        
        Well said (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Apr 20, 16:16:51
  - Guessing there'll be an appeal... (General Chat) - Greeny, Apr 20, 15:33:31
    - I'll be amazed if there's no appeal.. (General Chat) - Wiltshire Yellow, Apr 20, 15:48:31
  - Wow (General Chat) - norway, Apr 20, 15:29:37
  - didn't realise the cases against them were different (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 20, 15:28:50
    - Depends on his sentence I suppose (General Chat) - norway, Apr 20, 15:30:19
      - ~Coventry will have him. (General Chat) - Pixelman, Apr 20, 15:48:12
      - five years, half to be served (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 20, 15:31:18
        
        I expect so (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Apr 20, 15:32:26
        
        how many found guilty of rape tho? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Apr 20, 16:14:59
        
        Oh yeah Lee Hughes... who then allegedly raped someone (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 20, 16:11:38
        
        Marlon King? (n/m) (General Chat) - Brom, Apr 20, 15:33:20
        
        I was just about to suggest Oldham (n/m) (General Chat) - Karnivore, Apr 20, 15:33:11
  - Wow. Very unusual. (n/m) (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Apr 20, 15:24:09
    - Heavy stuff,but if he did the crime be must do time. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 20, 15:27:25
      - I agree. (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Apr 20, 15:29:25
        
        Dont know enough about it to comment in any detail tbf. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 20, 15:32:49
        
        I imagine the judge will make further comments when he is sentenced. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Apr 20, 15:31:02
        
        Which probably says (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Apr 20, 15:30:47
        
        I doubt it. I'm a criminal defence solicitor and have followed it through court reporters (n/m) (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Apr 20, 15:32:38
        
        So it's perverse then? (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Apr 20, 15:35:32
        
        No idea. I'm saying based on what I heard, I was expecting both one way or the other (n/m) (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Apr 20, 15:38:40
        
        Did only one of them, er, penetrate her? (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Apr 20, 15:39:39
        
        Nope both did. But both gave exactly the same accounts in defence (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Apr 20, 15:42:28
        
        And (to be fair) (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Apr 20, 15:42:53
        
        according to been (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 20, 15:42:15
        
        Hmm, so she was OK shagging the one that picked her up (General Chat) - duke of york, Apr 20, 15:44:28
        
        Yes (n/m) (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Apr 20, 15:45:09
        
        *beeb* (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 20, 15:43:13
        
        That can't be the whole story.... (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Apr 20, 16:11:08
        
        That sounds like a fair summation to me (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Apr 20, 15:45:40
        
        Ched Evans coming round etc seems very predatory (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 20, 16:34:10

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