not what i said

It just seems to me that people are using this as a stick to beat the government with. this has been escalating for years and political parties have all ignored the problem. these cuts have not even hit yet and we won't really feel their impact for a while yet.

Posted By: earlydoors on August 9th 2011 at 12:34:33

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I grew up poor on a council estate. Lots of unemployment. I myself spent 18 months (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 9, 12:10:11
- being brought up in Lakenham is hardly Inner city (General Chat) - micky maguire, Aug 9, 13:00:11
- But it is the youths causing the trouble (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Aug 9, 12:29:46
  - ^^ EMA that, I think, really is a massive issue. Just looks like a big "fuck you" (General Chat) - megson, Aug 9, 12:40:00
    - what's an EMA ? Like an EMU ? Don't they even pay the little fuckers to go to (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 9, 12:43:49
      - Whats an EMU? (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Aug 9, 12:46:51
    - Especially when the richest avoid paying tax (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Aug 9, 12:43:46
      - That really needs to change, not just individually but corporate too. Did DC get his (General Chat) - megson, Aug 9, 12:46:31
        
        absolutely, tax avoidance by the rich is a major issue (General Chat) - phrankin, Aug 9, 12:57:46
        
        As is benefit fraud for exactly the same reason! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 9, 13:13:35
- i spent the first 9 years of my life on a shitty council estate (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Aug 9, 12:19:10
  - Why the hell did you do that ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 9, 12:20:26
    - mostly stupidity (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Aug 9, 12:25:13
- because it is all Cameron's fault cos he closed the yoof centres. (n/m) (General Chat) - earlydoors, Aug 9, 12:18:46
  - he only closed them all as brown had spent all our money. (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Aug 9, 12:51:58
  - No-one is saying that's the whole reason, people are trying to understand the possible (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 9, 12:29:46
    - not what i said (General Chat) - earlydoors, Aug 9, 12:34:33
      - So who should we blame then? A powerless labour party? (General Chat) - megson, Aug 9, 12:38:54
      - You're characterising people who thing closure of youth centres is part of the problem.. (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 9, 12:36:28
        
        Sorry, I mean your initial message characterised people as that. (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 9, 12:39:10
- Gangs (n/m) (General Chat) - mr carra, Aug 9, 12:15:42
  - If it were gangs they'd be fighting each other (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 9, 12:20:41
    - or trying to outdo each other (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Aug 9, 12:27:33
      - And lots of opportunists nicking stuff because they can (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Aug 9, 12:28:15
- lots and lots of things (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 12:12:04
  - Surprised. I was in Hackney a few months ago and it appeared to have improved (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 9, 12:14:11
    - lots of it is great. I bet you didn't spend time on the Penbury estate though. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 12:14:51
      - Still don't get it. We can go further and compare the Penbury estate to some (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 9, 12:20:00
        
        I don't think anyone is trying to 'justify' the actions, just saying why they believe it (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Aug 9, 12:23:07
- Society's got shitter (General Chat) - duke of york, Aug 9, 12:11:40
  - Never before has there been a generation with such a sense of entitlement. (General Chat) - Tim Westwood, Aug 9, 12:16:57
    - Yes, Xboxs in prisons. THATS the problem here. (General Chat) - megson, Aug 9, 12:27:46
      - I think Tim Westwood and Schteve have ended up in the same place as malky started (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 12:29:46
        
        Under Rutland Water? (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Aug 9, 12:31:55
        
        yeah (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 12:34:29
    - Indeed. And why? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 12:23:37
    - ^^^^ this is the first straight answer in my opinion. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 9, 12:21:10
      - It's a hard life for these kids (General Chat) - phrankin, Aug 9, 12:22:55
        
        I love how people are using the ownership of iphones and blackberrys as definitive proof (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 9, 12:28:16
        
        But if you can afford them you are singificantly better off than I was (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 9, 12:46:36
        
        Blackberrys are not expensive (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Aug 9, 12:47:43
        
        play some fucking angry birds - like other 14 year olds do (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Aug 9, 12:31:56
        
        i do think though that society has become lazy (General Chat) - earlydoors, Aug 9, 12:30:47
        
        Yes, though that's largely because there's so much more available (General Chat) - duke of york, Aug 9, 12:33:10
        
        We didn't ALL have those things (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 9, 12:45:27
        
        Yes. Plus we seem obessed with being 'cooler' than our parents, and making (General Chat) - megson, Aug 9, 12:41:59
        
        I thought Etch a Sketch was literally magic (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Aug 9, 12:36:13
        
        ...and Super Flight Deck. I saved for ages for that. (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Aug 9, 12:34:59
        
        haha (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Aug 9, 12:28:42
        
        Yes, how dare young unemployed people have BlackBerrys! (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Aug 9, 12:24:24
  - I think the simple reason is that I am not a chav c*** (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 9, 12:15:19
    - So many things about modern life are shit (General Chat) - duke of york, Aug 9, 12:18:05
      - SO you'd obviously set fire to some houses and go looting then. Natural I suppose (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 9, 12:21:34
        
        Yes, that's *exactly* what I said (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Aug 9, 12:22:05

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