Holland lost, actually

And that leaves the following as suspicious results for the exact reasons you mention:

Germany 0-3 Czech Republic

FYR Macedonia 2-0 Croatia

Germany 0-0 Wales

Belarus 2-1 Holland

You have to congratulate UEFA on creating such a farcical situation. I've done the maths now though, and am convinced Holland will be the final top seeds, ending up fractionally ahead of the Croats - which completely vindicates Bilic's approach the other day, so enabling them to go for the win last night.

It's not exactly clear how they're being calculated - but if anyone's interested, I THINK the seeds look like being:

Pot 1: Austria, Switzerland, Greece, Holland

Pot 2: Croatia, Italy, Czech Republic, Sweden

Pot 3: Romania, Germany, Portugal, Spain

Pot 4: Poland, France, Turkey, Russia

Don't quote me on that, though! Early thoughts: Germany are my current tip, with Croatia a very decent each-way bet.

Posted By: thebigfeller, Nov 22, 13:02:34