9.7m lab, 6.8m con, 4.1m ref, 3.5m lib

But that's not the point I am trying to make. After the 2016 EU referendum, the UK had the 2017 GE. Labour won 262 seats. 149 leave and 113 remain. Traditional 'red wall' labour and the unions were leave (e.g. Scargill, Bob Crowe and Mick Lynch leave). Tony Blair / guardian labour - plus Scots labour - remain. Labour more leave than remain by constituencies.

Jeremy 'Hunt' passionately pro EU remain, Matt Hancock passionately pro EU remain, Liz Truss remain, May passionately pro EU remain, Cameron remain, Osbourne remain, Major passionately pro EU remain, Clarke remain (remember them trying to get the UK into the erm/euro?) Thatcher took UK into eec opposed by the likes of Tony Benn, Micheal Foot and a backbencher called Corbyn who opposed UK entry to eec, Maastricht and Lisbon treaties and was recently described by Dianne Abbott as a lifelong Brexiteer. Anyway, Corbyn now expelled from Blair/starmer labour...

Then we have the Eurosceptic Tories, Boris, Mogg etc.

Twixt Nick Boles EFTA motion and Clarke indicative vote, labour could have forced soft Brexit. They didn't. 2019 GE leave labour stayed at home - note did not vote UKIP. Boris majority and hard Brexit a consequence.

Traditional Tories stage coup against BoJo. Split Tory party. Eurosceptic go reform. Trad go Rishi. Both remain and leave labour vote labour. Labour stroll to landslide because Tories split / labour not split

What if 'Blair Labour' lose support of 'Scargil labour'? What a bunch of tossers smoking in a beer garden? They can go f**K themselves.

How about Eurosceptic Tory and Eurosceptic 'scargill / greggs' labour vote reform? What happens then? How many ru nations have gone far right because the left no longer support the poor?

How about a 'Germany' scenario, where the 'red' party becomes as popular as a fart in a spacesuit? Tactical voting where you need to vote Tory/CDU in order to keep Reform /AFD out of power? Shit, anyone in France want to comment? How would you feel about having to vote Tory to keep Reform out. The french Zamour/Mélenchon option isn't going to happen.

Meh. Too many words...

Posted By: Timmy_Goat, Aug 29, 20:35:18