I'm all open for debate

And i agree there are many different understanding's of these systems. Pro's and cons for each.

Thing with Marx's is it's very hard to get away from the historical context when he pursued revolution and the toppling of capitalism and was opting for a socialistic society.

My main beef with anything over that side of the isle is the idea of rewarding everyone equally regardless of time/effort/skill in the pursuit of fairness with zero class system.

Whether that be in food, resources, money but not in opportunity.

I fundamentally believe that you as a human being have individual responsibility but also collective responsibility. Therefore life in short is what you make of it. Not what someone else makes of it.

I don't think capitalism is perfect, far from it. But it's the hypocrisy from many of my fellow young colleagues & friends that will spend upwards of £800 on the latest Iphone, Attend university to study subjects without let's say " a credible high skilled job offer upon completion", purchasing materialistic items, predominantly on a loan basis and then complain that they cannot afford houses. That really grinds my gears. On top of that they then are duly brainwashed by the great Mr.Corbyn that all of their problems will be solved if the wealthy paid more tax. It's just frankly a kick in the teeth for many others like me who had to fight for any opportunity to get a decent education/job/house.

I believe everyone should contribute some of their time/money by law to the society they reside however when examples such as "Sweden" are brought forward as more desirable and favourable society's i really do believe people are insane.

With Corbyn's policies (Not Labour's), they all have good intention's and tend to serve in the interests of the majority of the population. However the idea that government should be in control of utilises/industry not only stifles competition but also innovation, and worse than that it makes the government the monopoly which is something else i detest.

I'm always open to debating those with different views. But anything that promotes or at least is similar in substance to Marxist/communist views i will not accept. Especially after the million's of people who have died and still dieing because of it.

Posted By: Basingstoke_Canary_J, Apr 3, 17:22:43