Yes it's going up

But the point I was making was democrats were not campaigning on the issue amongst other issues. And therefore if they want to be relected in 2020 they need to find some sort of solutions to issues surrounding America. Not consistently bash the other side because it's trump,otherwise it'll be a repeat of 2016.

To be fair to the orange man, a lot of the things he said he would do he has done and to bring manufacturing back,renegotiating NAFTA, cutting taxes and regulation appealed to many people.

I just don't see what democrats have to offer. Especially when the conversation is based around stopping trump instead of providing an alternative.

With regards to the Tories and labour. As much as I despise TM I would hate to see labour run this country in its current state.

A centre alternative would be much more attractive come the next G.E

Posted By: Basingstoke_Canary_J, Nov 7, 12:55:56

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