Plenty of Brian Clough's players were, too.
Ruthlessness and arrogance aren't necessarily a problem if you have the charisma, integrity and - above all - managerial skill to outweigh and justify it. Roeder really didn't.
Posted By: Ottosson Foxtrot on January 17th 2009 at 18:14:56
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- Curtain and Hooly revealing a lot about Roeder and why he failed (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 17, 17:56:41
- Yup (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 17, 18:01:04
- Indeed. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 17, 17:57:21
- What are they saying? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 17, 17:57:02
- what did they say? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 17, 17:56:56
- Roeder put too much pressure on them basically. Never confident in playing (NCFC) - megson, Jan 17, 17:58:21
- Surely a delicate balance though (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 17, 18:04:37
- Correct (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 17, 18:11:22
- It's the managerial partnership that's important - "good cop/bad cop" stuff (NCFC) - CB41, Jan 17, 18:08:36
- The Brian Clough/Peter Taylor partnership was the ultimate example of that. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 17, 18:09:26
- Having said that about Fergie though (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 17, 18:12:31
- Plenty of Brian Clough's players were, too. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 17, 18:14:56
- get these quotes on Clough's management from Keane (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 17, 18:19:35
- Lol - Cloughie used to hit his players quite a lot! (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 17, 18:21:33
- Who was it he punched in the stomach? (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 17, 18:26:32
- oh, that went wrong... (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 17, 18:27:20
- haha a classic. Thought that was keane to be honest but now I think it was someone else (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 17, 18:33:21
- No, definitely not Keane - name's on the tip of my tongue (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 17, 18:41:55
- It was Nigel Jenson (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 17, 18:44:51
- No, definitely not Keane - name's on the tip of my tongue (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 17, 18:41:55
- haha a classic. Thought that was keane to be honest but now I think it was someone else (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 17, 18:33:21
- oh, that went wrong... (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 17, 18:27:20
- Who was it he punched in the stomach? (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 17, 18:26:32
- Lol - Cloughie used to hit his players quite a lot! (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 17, 18:21:33
- I think the key is "respect". If your players respect you, I suspect (NCFC) - CB41, Jan 17, 18:17:12
- yeah worthy could be a shouter (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 17, 18:18:46
- yes, also correct (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 17, 18:18:23
- get these quotes on Clough's management from Keane (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 17, 18:19:35
- Plenty of Brian Clough's players were, too. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 17, 18:14:56
- He didn't do ANY coaching either. (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Jan 17, 18:10:55
- Having said that about Fergie though (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 17, 18:12:31
- The Brian Clough/Peter Taylor partnership was the ultimate example of that. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 17, 18:09:26
- ah makes sense then (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 17, 18:00:58
- basically yeah. (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Jan 17, 18:02:09
- shows we do have the quality (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 17, 18:03:08
- basically yeah. (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Jan 17, 18:02:09
- Surely a delicate balance though (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 17, 18:04:37
- The team had no freedom and players played with fear basically (n/m) (NCFC) - XXL16s_babyface, Jan 17, 17:57:51
- Roeder put too much pressure on them basically. Never confident in playing (NCFC) - megson, Jan 17, 17:58:21
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