I really apologise
if this is repetition but I am genuinely puzzled by the people who say 'How is this Roeder's fault?'
Other managers (Coyle, Grayson, Warnock, Irvine, Sturrock, Laws) work with similar situations (and often far less support) but achieve significantly more.
Why? Because they are actually managers capable of getting the best out of their players. The most damning thing about our current regime is that most people say the quality of the players is higher than, say, a year ago. Well if that's true then the people responsible for organising them and motivating them must be to blame for our appalling lack of results. You just can't have it both ways..if Roeder gets credit for improving the squad he must take the blame for failing to get them to perform.
He is a very poor manager of men. Indisputable.
What also really annoys me is this myth that we have had to loan people because there are no quality players available. Yet other teams find them. The fact is Roeder cannot take lower league players and make them better (like, say, Warnock) so he tries to get ready made 'Premier League' players on loan. But then they come under his spell and that's the end of that.
Finally..if he is a good manager (and, to be honest, I genuinely find it astonishing that, in spite of all the facts, some people still say he is) why can't we perform away from home? It is just so boring hearing him spout the fortnightly crap about how it shouldn't make any difference where we play etc etc. then we go away and get beaten..again and again and again. To me that's what marks out the reallly good managers - they get their teams 'up for it' away from home (the fans tend to do it at home) and they are tough to break down. We are crap away and that's all there is to it.
Why? Because nobody is motivated by such a dull, arrogant, tactically inept know-all.
Posted By: BillySteele on December 26th 2008 at 18:47:43
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- I really apologise (NCFC) - BillySteele, Dec 26, 18:47:43
- Well... (NCFC) - Reg Presley, Dec 26, 19:14:34
- Yes and of the loans he has brought in, the ones that aren't up to it have gone back. (NCFC) - tim berry, Dec 26, 19:28:03
- that does beg the question of why the results haven't improved at all tho, doesn't it? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 26, 19:32:15
- The performances against Ipswich, Watford, Reading and Charlton were mostly positive. (NCFC) - tim berry, Dec 26, 19:38:10
- Blimey. Nothing to worry about. (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 26, 19:47:36
- Yeah, we've had some bad results but we're not going downhill. We're fine for this season. (NCFC) - tim berry, Dec 26, 19:54:51
- What happens if we lose Leroy? (NCFC) - Reg Presley, Dec 26, 20:23:29
- Yeah, we've had some bad results but we're not going downhill. We're fine for this season. (NCFC) - tim berry, Dec 26, 19:54:51
- A result is a result though. (n/m) (NCFC) - tim berry, Dec 26, 19:45:54
- Don't know why I posted this twice, sorry. See below. (n/m) (NCFC) - tim berry, Dec 26, 19:47:08
- I thought we were terrifyingly bad against Charlton (NCFC) - Reg Presley, Dec 26, 19:44:55
- 75% possession (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Dec 26, 21:02:44
- A result is a result though. (n/m) (NCFC) - tim berry, Dec 26, 19:46:38
- Can't have it both ways (NCFC) - Reg Presley, Dec 26, 19:47:36
- You can have it both ways............ (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 26, 19:56:06
- This notion of what a team deserves is bollocks (NCFC) - King, Dec 26, 20:55:51
- You can have it both ways............ (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 26, 19:56:06
- Can't have it both ways (NCFC) - Reg Presley, Dec 26, 19:47:36
- Blimey. Nothing to worry about. (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 26, 19:47:36
- Well the thing is (NCFC) - Reg Presley, Dec 26, 19:36:07
- Nail, head... (NCFC) - tim berry, Dec 26, 19:38:49
- Bingo, so are we worse off............answer is NO in my opinion. (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 26, 19:58:34
- Play-offs aren't a priority, Roeder has done a great job with trying to rebuild the team (NCFC) - tim berry, Dec 26, 20:08:55
- Bingo, so are we worse off............answer is NO in my opinion. (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 26, 19:58:34
- Nail, head... (NCFC) - tim berry, Dec 26, 19:38:49
- The performances against Ipswich, Watford, Reading and Charlton were mostly positive. (NCFC) - tim berry, Dec 26, 19:38:10
- I agree (NCFC) - Reg Presley, Dec 26, 19:31:47
- Given that context he has done a good job in the transfer market. (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 26, 19:52:02
- To be a bit contrary (NCFC) - Reg Presley, Dec 26, 19:56:38
- Agree 100% but........... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 26, 20:05:17
- beggars cant be choosers (NCFC) - Reg Presley, Dec 26, 20:22:43
- Agree 100% but........... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 26, 20:05:17
- To be a bit contrary (NCFC) - Reg Presley, Dec 26, 19:56:38
- Given that context he has done a good job in the transfer market. (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 26, 19:52:02
- that does beg the question of why the results haven't improved at all tho, doesn't it? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 26, 19:32:15
- Yes and of the loans he has brought in, the ones that aren't up to it have gone back. (NCFC) - tim berry, Dec 26, 19:28:03
- I think people's main counter would be that it takes time to turn a club around (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 26, 19:00:03
- Well... (NCFC) - Reg Presley, Dec 26, 19:14:34
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