I agree with that

but the fact is the board gave him a decent budget to spend and he spent it. He blew it but that isn't the board's fault. All managers, even excellent ones (which Worthy wasn't), make cockups. Ferguson spent £27m on Veron and Wenger spent £8m on Jeffers for example. Unfortunately a club with our resources can't afford to just spend more money to cover such mistakes up (that's true for pretty much all clubs in our position). So sometimes sh*t happens. The last few years it's been our turn. The few years before were pretty good. Life is like that. Good times will be back. Grant IS learning his trade (as all quality managers have had to do when they began). We have to be patient while he does so and hope he learns quickly.

Posted By: mr carra on September 3rd 2007 at 13:26:16

Message Thread

Good post on pinkun (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:15:56
- Righty then, (NCFC) - cookpassbabtridge, Sep 3, 13:08:51
  - I seem to remember Bellamy got sold at the start of the season (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 3, 13:25:13
  - walker didnt resign you twat (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:11:27
    - excuse me? (NCFC) - cookpassbabtridge, Sep 3, 13:18:54
      - im not in a pub im on WOTB (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:21:55
        
        intelligent. And seeing as though you put it so poetically (NCFC) - cookpassbabtridge, Sep 3, 13:24:45
        
        not really (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:29:15
- Point 9. Unproven managers (at the time of gaining employment). (NCFC) - Yellalee, Sep 3, 12:35:53
  - also how many of those managers have either (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:55:24
    - What does it matter that they have 'big names'??? (NCFC) - Yellalee, Sep 3, 12:57:39
      - well they have more clout when signing players (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:00:50
  - signings have been ok for very little money (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:53:04
    - what, exactly has he done wrong? (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:57:09
      - isn't the 4-3-3 to accommodate Hucks? (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 3, 13:02:37
      - well (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:01:20
        
        well (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:02:33
        
        I'd say your mate is wrong on that (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 14:07:12
  - Arsene Wenger? Kenny Dalglish? (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 3, 12:42:03
    - Not Arsene. He was at Monaco wasn't he ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 3, 12:42:32
      - Well, thing is, they were all unproven at one point. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 3, 12:42:47
        
        yes but as a championship club with some good players (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:51:21
        
        Look, I'm afraid you're wasting your time on here. Most Wrathers seem to actually possess (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 3, 12:54:30
        
        I don't want Grant out (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:56:18
        
        by which point you'll get a lot more support from me (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:57:42
        
        exactly (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 3, 13:02:27
        
        who else applied (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:54:07
  - and Steve McClaren (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 3, 12:39:14
    - Indeed - i'm sure there's more as well (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Sep 3, 12:40:53
- On the plus side for your ridiculous post, however, point 8 is fair enough. (NCFC) - Yellalee, Sep 3, 12:29:45
  - not my post (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:30:59
    - so not because... (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 3, 12:40:47
    - proof ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 3, 12:31:38
      - it was fucking obvious (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:33:00
        
        Well, not to me. Do you have proof then ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 3, 12:36:51
        
        well there is never going to be any proof is there (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:05:55
        
        Ah, so what you mean is that it is your opinion ? (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 3, 13:07:43
        
        never given any targets (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:08:24
        
        well his job clearly WAS on the line (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 3, 13:17:01
        
        that was his first targets (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:20:58
        
        Bryan Robson (n/m) (NCFC) - blindasabat, Sep 3, 13:06:46
        
        which club?? (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:09:43
        
        Middlesboro in particular (NCFC) - blindasabat, Sep 3, 13:15:10
        
        good point, only 1 relegatioon when they made both cup finals (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:20:39
        
        that's because he was given bundles and bundles of money to burn (NCFC) - blindasabat, Sep 3, 13:32:13
        
        that was in his second season in the top flight after keeping them up (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:36:37
        
        alcoholic (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:07:45
- Point 5 was answered by Doncaster (or Doomcaster as I'm sure you'll wittily (NCFC) - Yellalee, Sep 3, 12:27:10
  - Re Ashton - thats weird! I read an article in the Daily Telegraph (NCFC) - Commisar_Canary, Sep 3, 12:41:44
  - Oh yeah, our agresssive transfer policy.... (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:30:29
    - You cant hold a fucking gun to their heads though can you?? All so easy in hindsight. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Sep 3, 12:31:20
      - hindsight is not an excuse when (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:33:38
- keep it on the pinkun (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Sep 3, 12:26:56
- Point 14 is just total bollocks (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:25:42
  - I can't be arsed to defend these points (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:28:53
    - now that's a point I can agree with (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:44:02
- Point 12, proves they were supporting their manager (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:24:49
  - lol - yes the just over 1 million spent on relegation really was (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:26:25
    - are you really as dimwitted as you appear? (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 3, 12:46:38
      - are you as deluded as you appear? (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:07:20
        
        I agree with that (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 3, 13:26:16
      - 1 million on transfer fees on relegation.... A fucking joke. (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 13:06:31
- Point 10, pure conjecture (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:23:49
  - He also fails to mention that the potential investment by Di Stefano was (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 3, 12:28:36
    - god don't remind me. (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:32:01
      - sure i still ahve e-mails form him somewhere........ (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:32:29
        
        Yeah me too. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 3, 12:32:54
      - Ha. It was you who got the phonecall wasn't it ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 3, 12:32:26
        
        yup a couple of them, at work (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:33:08
        
        ?? (n/m) (NCFC) - blindasabat, Sep 3, 12:34:42
  - The low level of spending seems to imply (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:24:45
    - and the point being? (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:26:23
      - wheres the balance between transfer fees received less those fees paid out (NCFC) - Commisar_Canary, Sep 3, 12:54:41
        
        that's a different point (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 13:00:24
        
        "moron" (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Sep 3, 12:56:46
      - they said it was a LOAN in the press.... (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:34:17
        
        indeed, but what does it matter? (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:44:53
- Don't think that even warrants a response (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 3, 12:23:05
- point 4, and?? (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:22:14
  - how about 1 3 5 8 9 10 11 12 14 (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:24:04
    - I'm getting to them! (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:31:32
- All whilst NCFC has enjoyed possibly the best support in its history (n/m) (NCFC) - fond, Sep 3, 12:21:38
  - how old are you? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:22:08
- by this, can we assume you are joining Smudger the Twunt's demonstrations? (n/m) (NCFC) - blindasabat, Sep 3, 12:20:33
  - nope (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:21:53
    - with who knows what sort of get out clauses on our side (NCFC) - blindasabat, Sep 3, 12:25:29
      - I guess so (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:27:30
- Sigh. First fault. (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:18:02
  - he was, in fact (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:19:12
    - sigh (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 3, 12:20:33
      - lol (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Sep 3, 12:21:10

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