This is all quite extraordinary

It feels like there has been a huge fall out between the US (Trump) and Zelensky. Perhaps a demand for more cash?
There have been lots of rumours about US aid being siphoned off, could this be a part of the reason?
Is Trump trying to get Russia on side and away from China?
Or is Ukraine being used as a tool in Trump’s agenda to make the Europeans pay for their own protection militarily and not rely on the US?
Probably somewhere in between.
I don’t like the fact the Russians are getting a free pass.

Posted By: JoeyDeacon on February 19th 2025 at 17:48:16

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Trump cosies up to Putin but calling Zelensky a dictator … (General Chat) - loz, Feb 19, 16:42:56
- This is all quite extraordinary (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Feb 19, 17:48:16
  - 🤣🤣 (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 18:19:27
    - EU really should get its own house in order regarding defence (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Feb 19, 19:51:04
      - A European army. Oh wait we left the EU to avoid that (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Feb 20, 07:23:02
- Zelensky has banned polical parties and called off elections. How does that fit into your (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 19, 17:40:49
  - Google: Can Ukraine hold elections during a war? Let us know what you find out. (n/m) (General Chat) - Astroturf, Feb 19, 20:32:33
  - The far left and far right lads 🤣🤣🤣 (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 18:20:09
    - Horseshoe theory (n/m) (General Chat) - shoddy, Feb 19, 18:28:48
      - Horsehoe theory is utter nonsense (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 19, 18:38:25
        
        ha ha (General Chat) - shoddy, Feb 19, 18:39:07
        
        Rubbish, you actually believe it (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 19, 18:41:46
    - It’s incredible, just parroting Russian and Trumpian misinformation (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Feb 19, 18:21:29
      - Don't be ridiculous. You're just woefully mis- and underinformed (n/m) (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 19, 18:38:59
        
        lol (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Feb 19, 18:39:47
        
        Come on then, tell us the facts about the war and prove how informed you are (n/m) (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 19, 18:46:36
        
        That's what I thought (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 19, 19:18:33
        
        As I said, there’s no point (General Chat) - jamesward, Feb 19, 19:41:28
  - Did U.K. hold elections during world war 2 ? (General Chat) - loz, Feb 19, 17:43:38
    - Well Loz, there was a national unity government in the UK, which is not the case in Ukrain (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 19, 17:45:32
      - Get your facts straight. During WWII a number of political parties in the UK were banned (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Feb 19, 23:00:01
      - democracy was basically put on hold during WW2 (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 19, 18:07:43
        
        It was a national unity government. how many times ffs? (n/m) (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 19, 18:13:07
        
        Hahahahahaha (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 18:20:34
      - Ok Boris 😘 (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Feb 19, 17:46:19
        
        Yes, how very mature of you. I consider "Boris" to be about as well-informed as you (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 19, 17:57:09
        
        Go kiss some Russian ass 😘 (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Feb 19, 18:00:11
        
        why don't you address the points I made instead of resorting to childishness? (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 19, 18:03:50
        
        Someone could address the points with facts (General Chat) - jamesward, Feb 19, 18:40:45
        
        More childishness. You can't refute this with facts because they prove me correct (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 19, 18:45:24
        
        The opposition parties that have been banned have pro-Kremlin leanings. (General Chat) - norwaay, Feb 19, 19:27:42
        
        I thought this was an interesting read (General Chat) - norwaay, Feb 19, 19:30:10
        
        i dont think most people thought Ukraine were whiter than white (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 19, 18:09:30
        
        No more evil than the US or Uk though. You think we don't meddle in elections (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 19, 18:12:36
        
        🤣🤣🤣 give him enough rope (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 19, 20:13:02
        
        All true (General Chat) - Kev, Feb 19, 18:28:29
        
        No, of course I'm not. This war has reached a deadlock though (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 19, 18:37:26
        
        🤏 blub (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Feb 19, 18:02:17
- The world is fucked I’m afraid loz (General Chat) - jamesward, Feb 19, 17:32:26
- Well he's a comedian pole dancing dictator (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Feb 19, 16:50:57
  - I believe in the rule of law… (General Chat) - loz, Feb 19, 16:57:42
    - America has been using Ukraine well before trump (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Feb 19, 17:48:50
    - you are aware of the fact that america bombed pearl harbour in 1941 (General Chat) - Tombs, Feb 19, 17:34:30
    - I'm afraid Europe wont agree on a meaningful response (General Chat) - shoddy, Feb 19, 17:33:13
- a useful guide to how this war came about (General Chat) - fal5taff, Feb 19, 16:45:08

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