Well it seems attractive to us, but of course that was Putin’s aim from the start

so basically it hands him victory.

Keeps Crimean, keeps Donbas basically and demilitarised zone means Ukraine loses territory and NATO stays away from his border.

Note that I doubt NATO would ever have admitted Ukraine before this war. The dance just suited both sides. A bit like the Turkey / EU saga.

Posted By: Legacy Fan on November 11th 2024 at 09:09:17

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Sigh"how can Trump change things for the better ",sigh. Err,Israel, Ukraine? (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 11, 03:15:18
- Thank feck i can switch the news off. (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Nov 11, 10:46:53
- Holy shit . (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 11, 09:25:07
  - You could answer the question (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 11, 11:29:39
  - Sobered up eh (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 11, 09:33:31
    - You lot are unreal. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 11, 10:31:34
      - In a good way I hope (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 11, 10:38:23
- tbf; its just as likely he can also make bad situations worse? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tressells Broadbrush, Nov 11, 09:04:15
- I just asked what you think will be better (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 11, 07:16:25
- Better for whom? (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Nov 11, 07:12:44
  - his 800 mile demilitarized buffer zone is a good idea ... (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 11, 07:46:07
    - Thing is they weren't officially in Donbass from 2014 onwards (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 11, 10:40:49
    - Well it seems attractive to us, but of course that was Putin’s aim from the start (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Nov 11, 09:09:17
      - exactly , would we as a country be happy giving up .... (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 11, 09:15:44
        
        I’d give up Suffolk (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Nov 11, 09:55:16
        
        And Scotland and Wales (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 11, 09:56:31
        
        The problem is.... (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 11, 10:01:07
        
        the problem is we have all pretty much run out of ammo (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 11, 10:24:08
        
        And the north of England (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 11, 09:59:42

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