I've always thought more restorative justice/much more rigorous community service
would deal with a lot of low to medium level antisocial s**t. Jails should be a last resort and those recidivism numbers posted below are grim reading.
Yes jail is to punish but also rehabilitate - otherwise we either lock everyone who does something relatively minor up for life or we accept they will one day walk our streets again and wouldn't it be a good idea to give them the help they need to get past whatever silly thing they've done so that when they come out they live a better life and more crimes aren't committed.
Distinctly unsilly things - serious physical/sexual assault, big frauds, wearing both stripes and spots in the same outfit - deserve significant sentences and in some recent cases I've seen reported I've thought the sentences too lenient; but that's surely quite a small proportion of cases the CPS gets. I'm glad there's to be this review of sentencing and I hope some degree of common sense is allowed into the room.
On this particular case it may well be that the CPS didn't want to be seen to prejudge; but on the facts as far as we know them it's pretty obvious the copper did the only thing he could have in the circs and it's sad that the prosecution went to trial.
Posted By: Old Man on October 22nd 2024 at 17:00:52
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- Bizarre they went ahead with that copper prosecution (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 14:12:22
- Important to have a fair trial so police who do break the law are either discouraged (General Chat) - footymadman, Oct 22, 17:29:43
- Just good old fashioned cowardice (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 22, 15:37:19
- Definitely feels like that (n/m) (General Chat) - littletinyphil, Oct 22, 19:08:45
- It's easier to jail people 2.5 years for lobbing paint at art work innit (n/m) (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Oct 22, 15:56:58
- A street kid got arrested, gonna do some time (General Chat) - Old Man, Oct 22, 16:50:06
- It’s always easier to jail people (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 22, 16:16:17
- Killers walking the streets vs locking up someone for vandalism vandalism (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Oct 22, 16:23:51
- they were charged with Criminal damage (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Oct 22, 16:33:12
- I've always thought more restorative justice/much more rigorous community service (General Chat) - Old Man, Oct 22, 17:00:52
- they were charged with Criminal damage (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Oct 22, 16:33:12
- Killers walking the streets vs locking up someone for vandalism vandalism (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Oct 22, 16:23:51
- Maybe we should ban paint (General Chat) - jamesward, Oct 22, 16:04:09
- You can't ban custard - next they'll be banning Vienetta (n/m) (General Chat) - inutero, Oct 22, 16:15:59
- yea maybe. (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Oct 22, 16:11:23
- True although technically all the background stuff is not really relevant to the case (General Chat) - Jim, Oct 22, 14:31:32
- Which politicians do you have in mind? (General Chat) - Bertie Russell, Oct 22, 15:38:02
- Khan and Cooper for a start. Plus the local MP. (General Chat) - Jim, Oct 22, 17:07:23
- I have no idea what you’re talking about (General Chat) - Bertie Russell, Oct 22, 18:44:32
- "respect the verdict " ........ (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Oct 22, 19:11:09
- I have no idea what you’re talking about (General Chat) - Bertie Russell, Oct 22, 18:44:32
- Exactly (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 22, 16:17:35
- Khan and Cooper for a start. Plus the local MP. (General Chat) - Jim, Oct 22, 17:07:23
- But the car was linked to a shooting (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 14:37:11
- Yes - I meant the background stuff about him. Obviously the car being linked to a shooting (General Chat) - Jim, Oct 22, 14:45:55
- They should prosecute his mum now (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 14:53:04
- or shoot her (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 22, 14:56:26
- They should prosecute his mum now (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 14:53:04
- Yes - I meant the background stuff about him. Obviously the car being linked to a shooting (General Chat) - Jim, Oct 22, 14:45:55
- Or at least "most" of it is not relevant. It does of course explain why he tried to escape (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Oct 22, 14:33:40
- Which politicians do you have in mind? (General Chat) - Bertie Russell, Oct 22, 15:38:02
- All quite obvious really (General Chat) - inutero, Oct 22, 14:29:22
- “Stop - armed police!” (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 22, 15:38:49
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