9.7m lab, 6.8m con, 4.1m ref, 3.5m lib

But that's not the point I am trying to make. After the 2016 EU referendum, the UK had the 2017 GE. Labour won 262 seats. 149 leave and 113 remain. Traditional 'red wall' labour and the unions were leave (e.g. Scargill, Bob Crowe and Mick Lynch leave). Tony Blair / guardian labour - plus Scots labour - remain. Labour more leave than remain by constituencies.

Jeremy 'Hunt' passionately pro EU remain, Matt Hancock passionately pro EU remain, Liz Truss remain, May passionately pro EU remain, Cameron remain, Osbourne remain, Major passionately pro EU remain, Clarke remain (remember them trying to get the UK into the erm/euro?) Thatcher took UK into eec opposed by the likes of Tony Benn, Micheal Foot and a backbencher called Corbyn who opposed UK entry to eec, Maastricht and Lisbon treaties and was recently described by Dianne Abbott as a lifelong Brexiteer. Anyway, Corbyn now expelled from Blair/starmer labour...

Then we have the Eurosceptic Tories, Boris, Mogg etc.

Twixt Nick Boles EFTA motion and Clarke indicative vote, labour could have forced soft Brexit. They didn't. 2019 GE leave labour stayed at home - note did not vote UKIP. Boris majority and hard Brexit a consequence.

Traditional Tories stage coup against BoJo. Split Tory party. Eurosceptic go reform. Trad go Rishi. Both remain and leave labour vote labour. Labour stroll to landslide because Tories split / labour not split

What if 'Blair Labour' lose support of 'Scargil labour'? What a bunch of tossers smoking in a beer garden? They can go f**K themselves.

How about Eurosceptic Tory and Eurosceptic 'scargill / greggs' labour vote reform? What happens then? How many ru nations have gone far right because the left no longer support the poor?

How about a 'Germany' scenario, where the 'red' party becomes as popular as a fart in a spacesuit? Tactical voting where you need to vote Tory/CDU in order to keep Reform /AFD out of power? Shit, anyone in France want to comment? How would you feel about having to vote Tory to keep Reform out. The french Zamour/Mélenchon option isn't going to happen.

Meh. Too many words...

Posted By: Timmy_Goat on August 29th 2024 at 20:35:18

Message Thread

Outdoor smoking ban in pubs finally. Civilisation starts here. (n/m) (NCFC) - MonkeyPuzzle, Aug 29, 17:37:35
- What about sniffing glue......is that banned too? (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Aug 29, 22:00:33
- Easy peasy (NCFC) - Surrey Yella, Aug 29, 20:38:22
  - Such a vile habit shouldn’t be normalised (NCFC) - SCC 28, Aug 29, 20:42:58
    - Gambling next on the list. Total ban. (n/m) (NCFC) - Pixelman, Aug 29, 20:48:56
      - Gambling must be way down the list (NCFC) - SCC 28, Aug 29, 20:53:08
- I picked the wrong day to start smoking...... (n/m) (NCFC) - promethian1, Aug 29, 20:37:56
- Personally it’s the only thing so far I agree on with Starmer…. (NCFC) - Biggles, Aug 29, 20:30:30
  - Maybe that is the idea! 😜 (n/m) (NCFC) - jimbo, Aug 29, 20:56:16
- People will just stand on the pavement just outside the garden (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Aug 29, 19:52:12
  - Hopefully inhale car fumes too (NCFC) - SCC 28, Aug 29, 19:53:19
- They haven’t even got round to banning smoking inside restaurants here in France 🇫🇷 M (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Aug 29, 19:51:57
  - Lovely country, but some of the French leave a lot to be desired…. (NCFC) - Kirrie, Aug 29, 19:58:13
  - Vile country (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Aug 29, 19:52:20
    - I do not concur with your viewpoint. (NCFC) - Timmy_Goat, Aug 29, 21:32:13
      - Maybe it’s rare as didn’t notice in Paris (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Aug 29, 22:02:06
- It's as if he* thinks he can win the next GE without the support of the working class (NCFC) - Timmy_Goat, Aug 29, 19:05:58
  - It's allready gone that wrong when that number of people who i (NCFC) - CB41, Aug 29, 19:50:19
    - Didn’t they get more votes than the Lib Dem’s at the GE? (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Aug 29, 19:59:59
      - 9.7m lab, 6.8m con, 4.1m ref, 3.5m lib (NCFC) - Timmy_Goat, Aug 29, 20:35:18
        
        Way too many words (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Aug 29, 20:42:52
        
        Sorry James... :-) (n/m) (NCFC) - Timmy_Goat, Aug 29, 21:33:03
      - Possible, totally depressing (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Aug 29, 20:02:32
- Very disappointed (NCFC) - Kangol Canary, Aug 29, 18:37:20
  - With all due respect Kangol you say you are against all these bans on trying (NCFC) - Biggles, Aug 29, 20:34:01
    - VMT (NCFC) - SCC 28, Aug 29, 20:48:10
  - Good (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Aug 29, 19:51:20
- If I were king of the world.I'd bring in a phased ban on the sale of cigarettes (NCFC) - Kev, Aug 29, 18:05:34
  - Diabetes has a big strain on NHS we getting rid of sugar (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, Aug 29, 18:11:05
    - Make people pay for some treatments (NCFC) - paulg, Aug 29, 19:31:18
    - can you passively ingest sugar from someone eating a pud at the next table? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Aug 29, 18:39:16
      - Exactly (n/m) (NCFC) - Biggles, Aug 29, 20:34:41
      - 🤣 (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Aug 29, 19:51:47
      - I wish! (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Aug 29, 18:47:06
    - No, but once your BMI hits a certain point, you're off to Rwanda (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Aug 29, 18:20:28
- Authoritarianism starts here. Although tbf it started as soon as Keir Starlin took office. (n/m) (NCFC) - RightOnCue, Aug 29, 17:47:15
  - Blub (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Aug 29, 19:54:12
    - Cunt (n/m) (NCFC) - RightOnCue, Aug 29, 21:23:17
      - 🤣 (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Aug 29, 21:54:29
  - Just wait and see what happens if that cunt Mirage is ever in charge (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Aug 29, 19:51:36
    - Doubt he’ll ban smoking anywhere - smokes like strain himself! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Aug 29, 20:01:25
      - I was referring to the authoritarian comment (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Aug 29, 20:03:43
  - As opposed to a nice little know nothing account? (n/m) (NCFC) - RightOnCue, Aug 29, 18:34:17
  - Nice little right wing alt account right there (n/m) (NCFC) - TheGrump, Aug 29, 17:50:14

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