all depends on who is on the radar to replace him
and how we do.
Same as it ever was.
Every change is a throw of the dice & the (potential) destabilisation has to be accounted for too. There's a number of clubs have managed the manager churn quite effectively for a stretch, but it has a cost, that I'm not sure we'd be comfortable paying.
I think they key-est point is how he is in terms of player development, and what he can get out of the players we have.
In those terms I think he's not a bad fit - we've had a number of players really kick on under him - though people inside the club would have a better idea of whether he's played a key role in that (or held them back, by taking a long time to get the best out of them).
In other fields, I'd say it's pretty hard to get people performing consistently well under you if you've hampered them earlier & it really didn't look like the players were disengaged during our rubbish patch.
If there's a great young coach who could make their name with us, that Knapper has sounded out, then I think it'd be fair to roll the dice.
But Wagner has promoted a limited team in the past, and kept them up. There's always an element of luck in any of these things, but he doesn't seem as bad a manager as some like to paint.
I'm sure the people at the club who are making the decisions have a better/more complete view of it than all the speculation - so it'll be interesting to see eitherway.
Posted By: Cardiff Canary on May 10th 2024 at 15:14:28
Message Thread
- Before the games are played, What would keep Wagner in his job? (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 14:44:54
- Made play offs - under remet of the club that is success (n/m) (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, May 10, 17:34:57
- That is clearly what Wagner said at the presser. (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 17:56:50
- Too many words (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, May 10, 16:53:09
- FFS, hardly War and Fucking Peace.... (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 16:55:32
- From the inside sacking him wouldn't be a massive shock. But the media/pundits etc would b (NCFC) - Wild Edric, May 10, 15:35:34
- Some are saying the same about West Ham..... (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 15:42:32
- How would you feel if he replaced Wagner? I get the impression most teams' fans would be h (NCFC) - Wild Edric, May 10, 15:53:20
- There was talk earlier in the season of replacing Wagner.... (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 16:02:07
- Think the Arsenal guy would be far more likely than Moyes … (NCFC) - loz, May 10, 16:07:15
- He does sound confident he'll get a decent job after West Ham, maybe he's got something li (NCFC) - Wild Edric, May 10, 16:06:10
- Chelsea. bmtp (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, May 10, 19:04:32
- There was talk earlier in the season of replacing Wagner.... (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 16:02:07
- How would you feel if he replaced Wagner? I get the impression most teams' fans would be h (NCFC) - Wild Edric, May 10, 15:53:20
- Some are saying the same about West Ham..... (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 15:42:32
- Getting an average team into the PO's? (NCFC) - inutero, May 10, 15:33:23
- Promotion (n/m) (NCFC) - Waz, May 10, 15:31:45
- I look at the season as a whole & playoffs is a decent outcome (NCFC) - Azteca, May 10, 15:30:52
- Can't we just replace the boo boys like noorway mikey loz james jim etc (n/m) (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, May 10, 15:33:15
- I think you’ve missed out the most important case for prosecution … (NCFC) - loz, May 10, 15:22:27
- Don't disagree, as mentioned..... (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 15:27:16
- Perhaps although … (NCFC) - loz, May 10, 15:43:40
- You would expect him to praise knappers influence......but he didnt. (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 15:46:55
- Tbf to knapper Delia somewhat undermined him … (NCFC) - loz, May 10, 15:53:30
- You would expect him to praise knappers influence......but he didnt. (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 15:46:55
- Perhaps although … (NCFC) - loz, May 10, 15:43:40
- Don't disagree, as mentioned..... (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 15:27:16
- all depends on who is on the radar to replace him (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, May 10, 15:14:28
- My opinion is clearly an outlier.... (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 15:24:03
- Broadly agree with ya (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, May 10, 16:49:55
- Its variance..... no such thing as luck..... (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 16:59:21
- Potato potarto (n/m) (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, May 10, 17:21:38
- Its variance..... no such thing as luck..... (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 16:59:21
- Broadly agree with ya (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, May 10, 16:49:55
- My opinion is clearly an outlier.... (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 15:24:03
- We have a playoff game on Sunday. Let’s not bother with this shit yet. (n/m) (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, May 10, 15:02:55
- IMHO this is the best time..... (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 15:10:02
- the second coming? (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, May 10, 15:15:17
- You could be right....Lets call it "the 2nd Cumming" (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 15:25:13
- the second coming? (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, May 10, 15:15:17
- IMHO this is the best time..... (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 15:10:02
- "We would do better under a better coach" (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, May 10, 15:02:19
- Thats not my argument FWIW.... (NCFC) - usacanary, May 10, 15:07:27
- Made play offs - under remet of the club that is success (n/m) (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, May 10, 17:34:57
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