There will always be a cliff edge, the only solution is to continue to improve the tech

Building any kind of margin for error doesn’t change that there is a cliff edge.

You could switch to an “umpires call” type approach, but I don’t think that would be fairer or result in more accurate decisions.

I think the binary approach of var to offside is correct, but the tech needs to continue to improve to reduce the margin of error, while also being faster. I’m yet to really see a suggestion that deals with the issue of marginal calls that I think would lead to a fairer outcome. Every team gets burned by these margins at some point or another, which is simply a product of offside being binary as a matter of the rules of the game; there is no subjectivity.

Posted By: SimonOTBC on April 21st 2024 at 20:53:20

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Comprehensive... (Other Football) - Pixelman, Apr 21, 18:54:27
- Was it a clear and obvious error in real time? No. Was any advantage gained? Also no. (Other Football) - Old Man, Apr 21, 19:31:08
  - It’s offside or it isn’t. (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Apr 21, 20:10:40
    - If the lines are closer than 15-20cm together (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, Apr 21, 20:16:03
      - Even if you did that, you just move where the marginal call is (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Apr 21, 20:20:37
        
        Sorry, I'm a scientist (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, Apr 21, 20:40:46
        
        There will always be a cliff edge, the only solution is to continue to improve the tech (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Apr 21, 20:53:20
        
        Yeah, the tech is improving (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, Apr 21, 21:24:45
        
        AI involved in semi automated next season (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 21, 21:34:03
        
        To be fair, when you look at the prevalence of conspiracy theorists / whack jobs (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Apr 21, 21:26:57
        
        Yep same for everyone (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 21, 21:21:31
        
        How will the new system work? (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Apr 21, 21:31:17
        
        Well (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 21, 21:38:02
        
        Would probably have more confidence if they weren't misusing (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, Apr 21, 21:58:12
        
        Hopefully the VAR doesn’t take ages on the validation (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Apr 21, 21:41:27
  - Clear and offside still doesn’t apply to offside (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 21, 19:44:16
    - Clear and obvious! (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 21, 19:57:00
      - ..... (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Apr 21, 19:58:23
  - As you point out, it's not accurate enough for those decisions (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, Apr 21, 19:42:29
- Onana was probably further off his line for the penalty miss (n/m) (Other Football) - Ben, Apr 21, 19:21:19
  - Funny that var and tech don't track keeper's being off the line for pens (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Apr 21, 19:27:49
- Nice blurry image (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 21, 18:58:52
- There was a goal given today where a bit of a player was offside (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Apr 21, 18:57:29

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