I was talking generally not about this specific case
Having said that I presume what Webber was trying to get at is that football (or indeed charity support) can be a vehicle for those coming from disadvantaged urban areas ,particularly where there may be a gang culture, to take them away from the risks that culture brings. The same sort of thing has been said about players from certain neighbourhoods in large South American cities for as long as I can recall also.
He typically spoke in a very clumsy fashion and got himself in a mess by reeling off a load of exclusively black players thus showing his prejudice/mindset that all black players come from that sort of background when that is clearly not actually the case and indeed most if not all of the players he referenced seem to have had very strong family support and seem to be impressive young men.
Posters on here will know I have little or no time for Webber. In some ways its pleasing to see him get his comeuppance. That said I think that this particular comment was not malicious or intended to offend (although obviously it did) and so i would place it at the lower end of the scale of "racist" offences and not really something that should see him cancelled. He was, as usual, sounding off to try and impress. But when you are a bit of a **** and make yourself enemies and then something like this happens you are likely to find limited sympathy out there.
Posted By: Jim on March 25th 2024 at 15:32:44
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- WRATH POLL: (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 25, 12:01:06
- A (n/m) (NCFC) - Fenwood Lad, Mar 25, 16:41:23
- Wrath poll (NCFC) - Greaves 123, Mar 25, 15:13:40
- yes (n/m) (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Mar 25, 14:43:28
- C (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Mar 25, 12:45:55
- Idiot - Should know comments like those would stir a hornets next (NCFC) - Gazzaman, Mar 25, 12:33:03
- A for me. Although what he said is arguably racist (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 25, 12:20:32
- arguably??? (n/m) (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Mar 25, 14:06:20
- The term racist is so freighted now it does hinder discussion (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Mar 25, 12:57:02
- Don't disagree. I hate the cancel culture when there is no intent and context is ignored (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 25, 14:25:55
- What's the hidden context here Jim? (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Mar 25, 14:33:08
- I was talking generally not about this specific case (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 25, 15:32:44
- That Webber’s an idiot? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 25, 14:37:54
- And equally (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Mar 25, 14:31:01
- What's the hidden context here Jim? (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Mar 25, 14:33:08
- Too many words (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 25, 13:11:53
- I don't think the cause is aided (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Mar 25, 13:30:49
- Don't disagree. I hate the cancel culture when there is no intent and context is ignored (NCFC) - Jim, Mar 25, 14:25:55
- I said it earlier... (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 25, 12:28:28
- To promote his charity and himself (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 25, 12:29:29
- How did that go? (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 25, 12:33:37
- Well everyone is talking about him 🤷♂️ (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 25, 12:34:38
- Philip Schofield achieved the same. (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 25, 13:30:19
- Well everyone is talking about him 🤷♂️ (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 25, 12:34:38
- How did that go? (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 25, 12:33:37
- To promote his charity and himself (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 25, 12:29:29
- C (The (B) being of the unconscious bias variety) (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Mar 25, 12:13:10
- Unconscious bias is part of being human (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Mar 25, 12:44:43
- It is, and something each of us needs to work on (NCFC) - CWC, Mar 25, 13:40:20
- I know that I have loads! But being aware of them is a start, at least.... (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Mar 25, 14:58:22
- It is, and something each of us needs to work on (NCFC) - CWC, Mar 25, 13:40:20
- Malcolm Gladwell wrote a very good book on that subject. (n/m) (NCFC) - tudders, Mar 25, 12:42:55
- He (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Mar 25, 12:46:27
- Yeah, punched a prostitute once. (n/m) (NCFC) - tudders, Mar 25, 13:21:40
- Well this thread took a strange twist (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Mar 25, 13:42:57
- Yeah, punched a prostitute once. (n/m) (NCFC) - tudders, Mar 25, 13:21:40
- He (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Mar 25, 12:46:27
- ^^^ this ^^^ (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Mar 25, 12:21:53
- Agreed. My view as well.... (n/m) (NCFC) - Saucerer, Mar 25, 12:20:36
- Yep, that's my reasoning too (n/m) (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Mar 25, 12:16:57
- TBF...I started at A but am working my way to C... (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 25, 12:25:54
- Unconscious bias is part of being human (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Mar 25, 12:44:43
- C (n/m) (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Mar 25, 12:11:09
- A (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Mar 25, 12:09:45
- A (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 25, 12:04:30
- agreed, and what about stuart webber? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Mar 25, 12:05:35
- Boom tish... (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 25, 12:08:52
- agreed, and what about stuart webber? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Mar 25, 12:05:35
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