OK - I admit bias here as I get the discount this year but...
To generalise that pension holders are better off is simply not true.
Yes there are those that are currently retiring that will have the benefit of Defined Benefit pensions and others who worked in Government Services who can claim gold plated pensions early but as below the average pensioner has an income of only £18k a year (including State Pension) and not the £30K stated which destroys most of your argument - the figure is set lower as "earnings" are lower.
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Pensions are not given out by some magical creature and relate to long term savings either deducted from or paid by an employer into an investment fund to ensure that old and decrepit workers do not hang around beyond their sell by date. - By its very nature a pension will be lower than the earnings achieved before retirement (unless very well invested) so even if an individual was on £100K a year their pension will normally be less than that and they need to trim their expenses accordingly.
There has been a lot of BS printed recently about someone needing £40-£50K a year as pension income for a "comfortable" retirement but that defies logic too - if you are at work and living on an income of £30K a year there is no way that you suddenly need an additional £10K a year to live on when you stop working but as they say there are "lies, damned lies and statistics"
Posted By: Ruttles on February 18th 2024 at 13:09:16
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- Season Ticket Pricing (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 09:21:36
- OK - I admit bias here as I get the discount this year but... (NCFC) - Ruttles, Feb 18, 13:09:16
- The problem is how you define 'comfortable' (NCFC) - Pam Demic, Feb 18, 13:26:19
- Sorry I meant "paid by an employee or deducted by an employer" in para 2 (n/m) (NCFC) - Ruttles, Feb 18, 13:12:02
- What is the average age (NCFC) - MrSpudhead45, Feb 18, 12:23:09
- And let’s not forget (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 18, 12:12:13
- Taking a step back… (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 18, 11:13:41
- That is a great reply (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 11:29:04
- I think you make some very fair points and it's an interesting discussion (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 18, 11:52:29
- "comfortable life" (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 18, 11:58:06
- I think you make some very fair points and it's an interesting discussion (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 18, 11:52:29
- That is a great reply (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 11:29:04
- I understand what you're saying but you can't generalise (NCFC) - Yellalee, Feb 18, 10:29:20
- But the club are generalising with their pricing policy (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 10:51:50
- hammer the kids then, level it up. 2-11 year olds are taking the piss 76 quid (NCFC) - Tombs, Feb 18, 10:57:54
- But the club are generalising with their pricing policy (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 10:51:50
- Dont be ridiculous (NCFC) - inutero, Feb 18, 09:51:02
- Let's look at this. (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 09:58:57
- There are arguments both ways re OAP discounts (NCFC) - Pam Demic, Feb 18, 12:11:33
- LOL. 30K a year, basic state pension is under 10K... What world are you living in... (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Feb 18, 10:11:16
- pensioner 30k ... your showing yourself up (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 18, 10:03:46
- £11k state pension + generous final salary company pension (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 10:34:10
- not saying its not (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 18, 10:42:44
- A 25 year old on minimum wage with huge rent (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 10:49:05
- and this is will really wind you up .... (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 18, 10:58:23
- Seems to me what you are bitching about ... (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 18, 10:54:02
- Bitching? I did start the thread with "debate" (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 10:56:28
- A 25 year old on minimum wage with huge rent (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 10:49:05
- not saying its not (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 18, 10:42:44
- £11k state pension + generous final salary company pension (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 10:34:10
- Let's look at this. (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 09:58:57
- I think assisted deaths at half time would be better than crossbar challenges (n/m) (NCFC) - MonkeyPuzzle, Feb 18, 09:46:36
- No and in a few years time your view will change ... (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 18, 09:43:16
- So do away with the adult age related subsidy (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 09:53:01
- Much lower expenses too though, surely? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 18, 09:50:16
- you hit the nail on head impossible the generalize (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 18, 09:55:19
- rubbish (NCFC) - Tombs, Feb 18, 10:20:17
- his head fell off (n/m) (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, Feb 18, 18:39:31
- Mr Tombs .. i expect better from you (n/m) (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 18, 10:45:09
- rubbish (NCFC) - Tombs, Feb 18, 10:20:17
- you hit the nail on head impossible the generalize (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 18, 09:55:19
- Agree and pensioners will spend less in the club shop, bars etc (n/m) (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Feb 18, 09:31:20
- My step father used to take sandwiches in cling film (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 09:37:33
- What is the discount? (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 18, 09:24:41
- My seat no discount for over 65 so not available in all areas (n/m) (NCFC) - Boyer, Feb 18, 14:37:36
- My seat: £545.50. For over 65: £369 (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Feb 18, 09:35:39
- OK - I admit bias here as I get the discount this year but... (NCFC) - Ruttles, Feb 18, 13:09:16
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