I'm sure Knapper has told Wagner to sort out the organisational issues

The only question really is how long he's been given to demonstrate improvement.

For all the chat from Wagner after Saturday's win, it wasn't really any better. Last night was really poor, and Wagner's post match comments were laughable. As if Hwang going off "shocked" the players! Perhaps he really wanted to say that Idah and Barnes were useless, but couldn't?

I do think we're wasting time keeping Wagner, but I can also see why Knapper hasn't fired him yet.

Posted By: SimonOTBC on November 29th 2023 at 10:17:22

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Is Knapper a wet wipe ? Why hasn’t he been sacked (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Nov 29, 09:54:59
- He's only just come in (NCFC) - Charles21, Nov 29, 10:46:59
- Sack knapper,NOW! (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 29, 10:24:04
- To be fair..... (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:10:06
  - And a significant pay rise you'd imagine! (n/m) (NCFC) - JD3, Nov 29, 10:40:00
  - It didn't look such a challenge way back when he applied for the job. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 29, 10:23:48
- He was scouted and found by webber and his team (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 29, 10:04:14
  - The only way for fans to show their displeasure is not going…I hate booing or (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Nov 29, 10:07:40
    - Then the club miss out on vital funds (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 29, 10:11:52
- Give the lad a chance. (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:02:21
  - MacNally sacked Gunn two months after joining and two games in cgarge (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 29, 10:17:15
    - Gunn wasn't a manager by any mtetric & we'd just suffered the worst result in our history (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:21:58
      - Wagner isn't a manager by any metric based on his last three jobs (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:24:12
        
        Got no idea how playing Placheta in defence at Cardiff (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:36:23
  - The situation has been obvious to any outsider (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:09:21
    - He *has* to take his time. He has to make *his* assessments (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:14:17
      - No he doesn't. He should have arrived with a plan. He had 2 months to watch us (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 29, 10:41:44
        
        VMT (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:45:34
        
        I imagine he is working on replacements and will have a list. (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:44:44
        
        He should have sounded out and lined up someone before he arrived (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 29, 10:57:58
        
        McNally sacked Gunn after about 3 months (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 11:19:58
        
        'Hey Jim, I'm joining Company A in a couple of months. Want to join me?' (NCFC) - CWC, Nov 29, 11:05:29
        
        You are confusing football with other industries (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 29, 11:54:23
        
        and you're confusing real life with championship manager (NCFC) - CWC, Nov 29, 12:46:05
        
        Don't get me wrong - I think he should be sacked now, and I wish Knapper would do it now. (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 11:01:50
        
        Look I can also. I just don't agree with it in this instance. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 29, 11:55:05
        
        👍 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 12:01:19
        
        What is the acceptable timescale to sack a manager after coming in as an SD? (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:51:51
        
        In the corporate world people are often let go immediately when a new boss arrives. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 29, 11:26:04
        
        Six weeks, four days and not on a Tuesday or after 3pm. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 11:02:25
        
        So just after Ipswich 5 Norwich 1 (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 11:04:08
        
        Perfect! (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 11:11:00
      - Inexcusable imo (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:22:18
        
        Just don't think it's his fault that he has to do it like this. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:22:57
        
        Sounds like you feel sorry for him. It's his job which he's paid mega bucks to do... (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 29, 10:25:36
        
        I sympathise with the position he is in, yes. (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:28:45
    - It certainly shouldn't be a surprise to him if he's been keeping tabs (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:12:23
  - The timing of our rapid collapse and his arrival are unfortunate (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:08:55
    - I'm sure Knapper has told Wagner to sort out the organisational issues (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:17:22
  - I know it’s the logical answer just so frustrated … (NCFC) - loz, Nov 29, 10:04:37
    - It's inevitable that Wagner will be fired at some point, very likely before Christmas (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:08:38
      - No danger of a relegation scrap (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:16:01
      - Yes, agree (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:11:12
        
        Madness if we sell out next season (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:16:41
    - It's an utter mess - but the last thing I would want supporters to do now is pointing (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:08:18
      - Yes, and also, it's important that he's seen as someone that does things the right way (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:12:50
        
        Which is why doing it the wrong way is such a concern (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:23:18
        
        McNally came in and sacked Gunn very quickly (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:16:48
        
        But he'd obviously sounded out Lambert ,a credible replacement (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 29, 11:41:44
        
        Bristol. (n/m) (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, Nov 29, 21:45:05
        
        As Norwaay said above, Gunn was not a manager (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:23:03
        
        We were on a good run under Gunn until Wes got injured... (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:25:49
        
        We were on a good run under Wagner until Sargent got injured. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:30:40
        
        Haha! I was literally just about to post the same thing (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:31:32
        
        Wagner in! (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:31:13
        
        😄 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:40:22
        
        Plymouth wasn’t far behind (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:23:55
        
        Losing by 4 in the championship isn't that unusual in NCFC history (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:34:35
        
        It was more conceding six than losing by four (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:40:19
        
        It's actually a better result than 4-0 or 5-1 though (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:48:47
        
        Hmm, technically maybe (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:52:57
        
        This is getting a teensy bit granular 😄 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 11:02:57
        
        Ok Dave (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:50:43
        
        We were 5-0 down tbf (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:40:18
        
        But that was after a very good start to the season. (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:27:08
        
        The start was just 4 games though (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:43:12
        
        👍 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:23:48
        
        Yep. Joined in June 2009 and sacked Gunn in August after two games. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 29, 10:18:37
        
        I think if Webber came in now as he was in 2016 (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:20:10
        
        They didn't sack Farke after a win. (NCFC) - usacanary, Nov 29, 15:49:07
        
        Fans wanted farke gone..... he obeyed (n/m) (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 29, 10:32:41
        
        Farke wasn't sacked because of fan pressure (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:35:09
        
        Details (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:40:41
- Knapper is a wet wipe, Knapper is a wet wipe, na na na,na na na (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Nov 29, 09:56:34

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