It certainly shouldn't be a surprise to him if he's been keeping tabs

on us for the several weeks before he arrived.

It's fair to have more conversations with Wagner, watch training, watch a couple of games first hand.

But in football you don't get weeks or months to assess things, and two weeks is enough for him to see it's a complete s**tshow.

Posted By: jamesward on November 29th 2023 at 10:12:23

Message Thread

Is Knapper a wet wipe ? Why hasn’t he been sacked (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Nov 29, 09:54:59
- He's only just come in (NCFC) - Charles21, Nov 29, 10:46:59
- Sack knapper,NOW! (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 29, 10:24:04
- To be fair..... (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:10:06
  - And a significant pay rise you'd imagine! (n/m) (NCFC) - JD3, Nov 29, 10:40:00
  - It didn't look such a challenge way back when he applied for the job. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 29, 10:23:48
- He was scouted and found by webber and his team (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 29, 10:04:14
  - The only way for fans to show their displeasure is not going…I hate booing or (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Nov 29, 10:07:40
    - Then the club miss out on vital funds (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 29, 10:11:52
- Give the lad a chance. (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:02:21
  - MacNally sacked Gunn two months after joining and two games in cgarge (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 29, 10:17:15
    - Gunn wasn't a manager by any mtetric & we'd just suffered the worst result in our history (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:21:58
      - Wagner isn't a manager by any metric based on his last three jobs (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:24:12
        
        Got no idea how playing Placheta in defence at Cardiff (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:36:23
  - The situation has been obvious to any outsider (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:09:21
    - He *has* to take his time. He has to make *his* assessments (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:14:17
      - No he doesn't. He should have arrived with a plan. He had 2 months to watch us (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 29, 10:41:44
        
        VMT (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:45:34
        
        I imagine he is working on replacements and will have a list. (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:44:44
        
        He should have sounded out and lined up someone before he arrived (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 29, 10:57:58
        
        McNally sacked Gunn after about 3 months (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 11:19:58
        
        'Hey Jim, I'm joining Company A in a couple of months. Want to join me?' (NCFC) - CWC, Nov 29, 11:05:29
        
        You are confusing football with other industries (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 29, 11:54:23
        
        and you're confusing real life with championship manager (NCFC) - CWC, Nov 29, 12:46:05
        
        Don't get me wrong - I think he should be sacked now, and I wish Knapper would do it now. (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 11:01:50
        
        Look I can also. I just don't agree with it in this instance. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 29, 11:55:05
        
        👍 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 12:01:19
        
        What is the acceptable timescale to sack a manager after coming in as an SD? (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:51:51
        
        In the corporate world people are often let go immediately when a new boss arrives. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 29, 11:26:04
        
        Six weeks, four days and not on a Tuesday or after 3pm. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 11:02:25
        
        So just after Ipswich 5 Norwich 1 (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 11:04:08
        
        Perfect! (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 11:11:00
      - Inexcusable imo (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:22:18
        
        Just don't think it's his fault that he has to do it like this. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:22:57
        
        Sounds like you feel sorry for him. It's his job which he's paid mega bucks to do... (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 29, 10:25:36
        
        I sympathise with the position he is in, yes. (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:28:45
    - It certainly shouldn't be a surprise to him if he's been keeping tabs (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:12:23
  - The timing of our rapid collapse and his arrival are unfortunate (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:08:55
    - I'm sure Knapper has told Wagner to sort out the organisational issues (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:17:22
  - I know it’s the logical answer just so frustrated … (NCFC) - loz, Nov 29, 10:04:37
    - It's inevitable that Wagner will be fired at some point, very likely before Christmas (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:08:38
      - No danger of a relegation scrap (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:16:01
      - Yes, agree (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:11:12
        
        Madness if we sell out next season (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:16:41
    - It's an utter mess - but the last thing I would want supporters to do now is pointing (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:08:18
      - Yes, and also, it's important that he's seen as someone that does things the right way (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:12:50
        
        Which is why doing it the wrong way is such a concern (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:23:18
        
        McNally came in and sacked Gunn very quickly (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:16:48
        
        But he'd obviously sounded out Lambert ,a credible replacement (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 29, 11:41:44
        
        Bristol. (n/m) (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, Nov 29, 21:45:05
        
        As Norwaay said above, Gunn was not a manager (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:23:03
        
        We were on a good run under Gunn until Wes got injured... (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:25:49
        
        We were on a good run under Wagner until Sargent got injured. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:30:40
        
        Haha! I was literally just about to post the same thing (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:31:32
        
        Wagner in! (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:31:13
        
        😄 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:40:22
        
        Plymouth wasn’t far behind (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:23:55
        
        Losing by 4 in the championship isn't that unusual in NCFC history (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:34:35
        
        It was more conceding six than losing by four (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:40:19
        
        It's actually a better result than 4-0 or 5-1 though (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:48:47
        
        Hmm, technically maybe (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:52:57
        
        This is getting a teensy bit granular 😄 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 11:02:57
        
        Ok Dave (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:50:43
        
        We were 5-0 down tbf (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:40:18
        
        But that was after a very good start to the season. (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:27:08
        
        The start was just 4 games though (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 29, 10:43:12
        
        👍 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:23:48
        
        Yep. Joined in June 2009 and sacked Gunn in August after two games. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Nov 29, 10:18:37
        
        I think if Webber came in now as he was in 2016 (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 29, 10:20:10
        
        They didn't sack Farke after a win. (NCFC) - usacanary, Nov 29, 15:49:07
        
        Fans wanted farke gone..... he obeyed (n/m) (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 29, 10:32:41
        
        Farke wasn't sacked because of fan pressure (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 29, 10:35:09
        
        Details (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Nov 29, 10:40:41
- Knapper is a wet wipe, Knapper is a wet wipe, na na na,na na na (n/m) (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Nov 29, 09:56:34

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