Big difference between Blair and Starmer
Blair took over an economy that had undeniably turned the corner. He had policy options and levers to pull and the biggest criticism of his first term, one he himself also makes, is that he didnt' actually do much with that massive majority and helpful economy. As time went on he became better at executing the office of PM, took worse decisions (iraq, etc) and left office feeling he finally knew how to do the job really well but frustrated that he'd expended all his political capital in the early years when he didn't really push like he could have done.
Starmer is taking over (assuming he wins, I think he will) an economy on its knees with massive national debt, the highest post-war tax burden, a much more fractured society and the outcome of consistently massively inadequate capex (to put it in corporate terms) over at least a decade (austerity innit). You can't fix ten years of not investing overnight, or without spending money, and where that extra money is to come from is hard to see. I think Reeves is very competent and I like the plan for a quick capex injection into the NHS but that's only a small part - probably enough to get them into power but Starmer is being dealt a really rough hand by the general state of the country, a challenge Blair never really had.
Posted By: Old Man on November 13th 2023 at 11:09:24
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- Looks like Braverman has beaten Wagner to the sack (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 13, 08:40:23
- A lot of suggestions that this was her plan (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Nov 13, 09:15:43
- It was. Her plan is something like this (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 13, 10:43:12
- That’s very negative (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 13, 11:00:59
- Big difference between Blair and Starmer (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 13, 11:09:24
- Hmm true but (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 13, 11:27:19
- I hope you're right (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 13, 11:35:47
- As it stands, I dont tihnk Braverman could win an election (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Nov 13, 11:51:49
- I hope you're right (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 13, 11:35:47
- Hmm true but (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 13, 11:27:19
- Big difference between Blair and Starmer (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 13, 11:09:24
- That’s very negative (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 13, 11:00:59
- She's self-evidently been trying to get sacked for months (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Nov 13, 09:41:16
- This reflects one of the most fundamental problems with UK politics (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Nov 13, 10:18:05
- It's always been like this. From both sides (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 13, 10:39:20
- This reflects one of the most fundamental problems with UK politics (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Nov 13, 10:18:05
- Yeah assume she’ll be leader of a far right opposition (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 09:32:07
- Alongside Farage maybe (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 09:35:24
- It was. Her plan is something like this (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 13, 10:43:12
- So she’s not untouchable after all (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 08:53:11
- David Cameron is back lol (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 13, 09:01:18
- So few actual MPs to choose from (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 09:13:02
- David Cameron is back lol (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 13, 09:01:18
- Encouraging the growing Far Right in this country was very stupid (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Nov 13, 08:50:10
- Such a nasty piece of work, without a shred of empathy (n/m) (General Chat) - earlydoors, Nov 13, 08:48:42
- Thought Patel was bad enough but Braverman's taken it to another level. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Nov 13, 09:52:28
- A proper proper cunt (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 08:54:16
- Many others too (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Nov 13, 08:55:35
- She's an example of just how detached the government are for the people (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Nov 13, 08:53:19
- Dead men walking until next election, when we should get some positive change (n/m) (General Chat) - earlydoors, Nov 13, 09:23:56
- They'll buy another coalition like multiple times previous (n/m) (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Nov 13, 09:25:34
- think they have zero chance. All Keir needs to do is to not fuck up and it is his (n/m) (General Chat) - earlydoors, Nov 13, 09:27:54
- Agreed but unfortunately I don't expect too much to change even when he's elected. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Nov 13, 09:54:24
- Not initially. But at least there will be seemingly adults in charge (n/m) (General Chat) - Yellalee, Nov 13, 10:37:39
- Agreed but unfortunately I don't expect too much to change even when he's elected. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Nov 13, 09:54:24
- think they have zero chance. All Keir needs to do is to not fuck up and it is his (n/m) (General Chat) - earlydoors, Nov 13, 09:27:54
- They'll buy another coalition like multiple times previous (n/m) (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Nov 13, 09:25:34
- Dead men walking until next election, when we should get some positive change (n/m) (General Chat) - earlydoors, Nov 13, 09:23:56
- Correct decision but she will be even more of a hero to the right wing now. (n/m) (General Chat) - colincanary, Nov 13, 08:46:02
- Oh dear what a shame. (n/m) (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Nov 13, 08:44:28
- A lot of suggestions that this was her plan (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Nov 13, 09:15:43
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