So "No-one wants them to fail" is just hyperbole and has no basis in fact.

I think facts are quite important in this crisis.

Posted By: norwaay on November 3rd 2023 at 21:10:57

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I have to say this.if there is any kind of desecration of the cenotaph this weekend.then (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 3, 19:54:54
- I think many of us feel that way (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Nov 3, 21:21:29
- I see Lineker has finally come out for Hamas (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 20:26:08
  - He literally hasn't. Agree with SCC though that he is being naive. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 20:43:31
    - Well (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 3, 21:06:00
      - Btw,how did Islam spread out of this cave Mohamed interpreted his definition of what "god (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 3, 21:12:33
        
        It was by force. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 3, 21:14:36
        
        And I'm sure you know that too (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 3, 21:17:32
  - If there is any desecration of the cenotaph this weekend then I will be very angry. (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 3, 20:36:41
    - we are in a right muddle, aren't we? (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 20:43:04
      - we didn't start the fire shodds (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 3, 21:21:26
        
        yes tombs (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 21:32:53
        
        yep (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 3, 21:42:55
        
        ha ha (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 21:49:28
      - What is wrong with being *pro Palestine*? Genuine question. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 20:44:35
        
        Not this weekend mate.No. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 3, 20:47:50
        
        Your post did start it tbf. But def not looking for a row I promise. (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 20:49:49
        
        But not this weekend mate. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 3, 21:00:38
        
        My post did start it.corbyn was in (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 3, 20:59:37
        
        sure. its a good question. (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 20:47:14
        
        Ok, but I do think that conflating Hamas with Palestine is unhelpful. (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 20:48:43
        
        They are the government (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 20:50:09
        
        But pro Palestine is not pro Hamas (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 20:53:55
        
        It’s also mainly anti Israel (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 3, 20:59:51
        
        Im a pretty well rounded guy - but the anti semitism I have seen recently has shocked me (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 21:02:06
        
        I entirely agree that there has been horrific anti semitism. (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 21:05:29
        
        Palestine is not pro Hamas? (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 20:56:45
        
        Hamas took control of Gaza through force (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Nov 3, 21:57:15
        
        Yep (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 3, 22:46:54
        
        👍👍👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 22:11:56
        
        Do Palestinian children deserve to be killed (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 3, 21:03:41
        
        no-one deserves to be killed. Violence is abhorrent (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 21:09:16
        
        I find conflating all Palestinians (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 3, 21:11:51
        
        You'd think... (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 21:19:24
        
        "No-one wants them to fail"? (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 21:03:25
        
        I know lots of people who want hamas to fail. (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 21:06:28
        
        I think a middle ground is possible (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 3, 21:13:30
        
        if hamas put down their weapons then so would israel. if israel put down their weapons (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Nov 3, 23:22:39
        
        So "No-one wants them to fail" is just hyperbole and has no basis in fact. (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 21:10:57
        
        no-one on the 'left' (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 21:12:35
        
        So to be clear, you are asserting, as fact, that *everyone* on *the left* wants to destroy (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 21:18:55
        
        I didnt say everyone. but it wasnt long ago the labour party was proven to be anti semitic (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 21:21:49
        
        You said "No-one" (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 21:24:12
        
        it just takes good people to do nothing Norwaay (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 21:27:20
        
        A shame you won't own your exaggerations. (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 21:37:48
        
        I've looked for a leftist calling for the downfall of the Palestine government. (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 21:41:11
        
        There has been lots condemning them for their actions and calling them out as a terrorist (General Chat) - Azteca, Nov 3, 22:53:19
        
        You believe that everyone on the left wants a second holocaust. (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 22:11:25
        
        Not entirely sure that's what he said or meant. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Nov 3, 22:57:48
        
        Language is important Tudders (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 23:05:46
        
        you should read back on my posts. (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 22:13:28
        
        Ok... ad hominems. Over and out 👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 22:15:20
        
        because they are committed to destroying Israel (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 3, 20:46:30
        
        "Palestine"? I think you're confused. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 20:47:18
        
        am i (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 3, 20:53:01
        
        Do you have a view on Palestinian people generally? (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 20:56:02
        
        Would you like to exp!ain how Islam speeD out from this cave? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 3, 21:03:27
        
        Er, hello? How did Islam spread n the 6th century? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 3, 21:09:09
        
        i think you will be hard pressed to find one (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 3, 21:02:20
        
        Right, ok 👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 3, 21:06:59
  - Not quite but he is a naive twat (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 3, 20:36:00
  - he picked his words carefully (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 3, 20:31:24
    - Yes (General Chat) - shoddy, Nov 3, 20:35:34
      - I think he’s just stupid tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 3, 20:36:42
        
        Nah he's a dickhead but I think he's honest.I think he'd be motivated enough to learn (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 3, 20:40:24

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