They are hamstrung by tradition. The right to bear arms is in the Constitution.... but
the right to bear arms was designed for use with C18th blunderbuses and rifles that couldn't hit a barn door at 4ft - not semi automatic machine guns and worse. You could write books on how it has developed since then but essentially the current situation is all a combination of
a) The Original Constitution provided for a Combination of both National Laws and State Laws. State Laws usually override National Ones.
b) Tradition and Isolationism. What is it, only 25% have passports?
c) A Two Party Right Wing Political System - the Democrats are Closer to our Tories, the Republicans further Right than Attilla the Hun
d) An incredibly powerful Gun Lobby who fund the Republican Party to a massive degree. They won't vote for Gun Laws.
5) The way Social Media has developed. Like for like copycat killings. A huge number of 'nutters' who fundamentally believe in their right to bear (and use) arms and will defend that right to the end. These same people genuinely believe Trump was cheated out of the 2020 Presidency. I've met them.
It's a whole list of far too complicated interwoven issues which USA Canary can know doubt explain better, but basically the country is ******. Gun Laws should have been introduced after the Civil War. They weren't and you reap what you sow. I'm going there for a 3 week holiday / tour next month (Mid and West States). If we hadn't now paid (a lot) for the holiday I might have considered cancelling. Will be very very cautious though....
Posted By: Saucerer on May 9th 2023 at 11:27:38
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- Sweet baby jebus... (General Chat) - Pixelman, May 9, 08:30:05
- Blimey it's just like anglia Square after dark in the 80's (n/m) (General Chat) - brianguthrysluvchild, May 9, 16:00:04
- Blimey it's just like anglia Square after dark in the 80's (n/m) (General Chat) - brianguthrysluvchild, May 9, 15:59:48
- Before bed, Parents read stories to their guns instead of the kids now (n/m) (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, May 9, 15:38:49
- Public Information films.... (General Chat) - usacanary, May 9, 14:31:11
- Lost my handguns after Dunblane. We still have lots of guns, just not as many fruitcakes. (n/m) (General Chat) - Biggles, May 9, 14:20:48
- Not exactly rubbish but I guess you just googled that stat (n/m) (General Chat) - Biggles, May 9, 16:16:16
- That’s rubbish. 4.6 guns per 100 people in England and Wales (General Chat) - Old Git, May 9, 14:44:00
- Did you go to the shooting show at Birmingham NEC?? (n/m) (General Chat) - Biggles, May 9, 16:16:58
- Do you shoot? (n/m) (General Chat) - Biggles, May 9, 16:15:35
- Well... (General Chat) - Jester, May 9, 11:12:21
- Ha, I should have watched the ehole video before posting... (General Chat) - Jester, May 9, 11:19:51
- The attitude to guns in that country is beyond belief. A lot of them are just (General Chat) - Jim, May 9, 10:11:58
- Democracy is an experiment. (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, May 9, 14:35:02
- You’ve got a 1 in 12,500 (General Chat) - Thorpey_C, May 9, 10:09:15
- its closer to 1 in 16,000 and varies greatly from location and state. (General Chat) - usacanary, May 9, 14:58:26
- Oh the dead (General Chat) - Thorpey_C, May 9, 17:02:03
- its closer to 1 in 16,000 and varies greatly from location and state. (General Chat) - usacanary, May 9, 14:58:26
- Bloke left his GF on her own and hid behind the bar, what a fucking beta (General Chat) - Real Man, May 9, 10:03:00
- Good (General Chat) - Real Man, May 9, 10:11:13
- He didn't even then take the opportunity of a free bar, which is unforgivable. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, May 9, 10:10:16
- They having massacres every 2/3 days,it's like (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, May 9, 09:44:21
- And each time, gun sales appear to increase. Seems a bit counter productive to me but hey (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, May 9, 09:54:37
- They're hamstrung by their constitution. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, May 9, 10:00:43
- They are hamstrung by tradition. The right to bear arms is in the Constitution.... but (General Chat) - Saucerer, May 9, 11:27:38
- they always forget the "well regulated" bit... (General Chat) - CWC, May 9, 11:32:29
- No - they are hamstrung by some odd interpretation of certain clauses in the constitution (n/m) (General Chat) - Brom, May 9, 10:08:38
- The right of the people to shoot each other in the face, shall not be infringed. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, May 9, 10:07:49
- T'will need a seismic change, which can't see happening. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, May 9, 10:03:25
- And a significant part of the population being complete nutters (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, May 9, 10:03:09
- Along with their elected representatives (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 9, 10:08:13
- No they are hamstrung by the gun lobby (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, May 9, 10:02:53
- The NRA are a bit extremist. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, May 9, 10:08:58
- They are hamstrung by tradition. The right to bear arms is in the Constitution.... but (General Chat) - Saucerer, May 9, 11:27:38
- They're hamstrung by their constitution. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, May 9, 10:00:43
- And each time, gun sales appear to increase. Seems a bit counter productive to me but hey (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, May 9, 09:54:37
- “Do you want to know more?” (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, May 9, 09:07:53
- Murphy (n/m) (General Chat) - Biggles, May 9, 14:11:34
- Starship troopers. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, May 9, 15:18:12
- *Captain America "I got that reference" GIF* (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, May 9, 11:14:43
- Murphy (n/m) (General Chat) - Biggles, May 9, 14:11:34
- a country of such extremes (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, May 9, 08:55:44
- Where children are protected from the dangers (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 9, 08:59:07
- But not work (General Chat) - CWC, May 9, 09:12:20
- Land of the free! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 9, 09:14:23
- But not work (General Chat) - CWC, May 9, 09:12:20
- Where children are protected from the dangers (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 9, 08:59:07
- Ours is Run Hide Tell (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, May 9, 08:55:23
- Can’t believe praying wasn’t recommended (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, May 9, 08:53:56
- Maybe lighting a candle too (n/m) (General Chat) - Thorpey_C, May 9, 10:11:23
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