Serious answer from my pov
I'm not keen on this sweeping two different trophies into one category - the FA Cup is not the same as the trophy the women compete for, or the Women's Trophy isn't the same as the one the men compete for.
I don't see this as a particularly effective way to make women's sport more equal; it's flawed and isn't going to win too many supporters over, when the history of the Men's FA Cup is so ingrained in football supporters it diminishes both by making out that it's one and the same thing.
tbh I feel similar when talking about 'most capped players'. This feels like equality through the back door, and I don't believe it's what feminists have fought for. It's not damaging to have specific competitions and trophies by gender in the same way that we have age specific competitions.
Maybe one day it will all be as one, but I actually don't think we've got the approach right yet.
Posted By: camcan on January 10th 2022 at 12:55:45
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- We can all bring something to the game....... (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jan 10, 10:50:31
- I wasn't there yesterday, thankfully by the sounds of it, but sounds like a wannabe firm (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 10, 14:28:38
- oldskool kicking lol. From whom? (n/m) (General Chat) - MonkeyPuzzle, Jan 10, 17:41:32
- They're Norwich/Norfolk based (General Chat) - s10 yellow, Jan 10, 14:44:39
- You can enjoy the drum on the Norwich Central "Pryo in the away end" video on Yootub (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jan 10, 15:17:58
- Actually just watching that again, I see they're trying to adopt the Allez song with (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jan 10, 15:27:28
- You can enjoy the drum on the Norwich Central "Pryo in the away end" video on Yootub (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jan 10, 15:17:58
- I have seen them at Palace and Charlton. (General Chat) - munter, Jan 10, 14:43:09
- I know everyone has an opinion but whenever I see something on the Norwich FB pages (General Chat) - lurd, Jan 10, 14:08:57
- Honestly, don't go on those pages. Chock full of morons. (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 10, 14:32:58
- We've not made a lot of friends this season. (General Chat) - APB, Jan 10, 13:08:37
- No they are youngsters primarily, and in terms of their aim to improve the atmosphere then (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 10, 13:28:24
- Singing "How shit must you be" etc isn't improving the atmosphere (General Chat) - APB, Jan 10, 15:05:41
- I think it also reflects the social media age. (General Chat) - Boyer, Jan 10, 13:48:45
- Maybe the old school support can bring back inflatable canaries and just bonk them on the (General Chat) - NorskyNormann, Jan 10, 13:32:33
- There's a big chunk of the fanbase (General Chat) - CWC, Jan 10, 13:18:45
- Won’t they just piss off then anyway? And support a premier league team maybe (n/m) (General Chat) - NorskyNormann, Jan 10, 13:29:11
- No they are youngsters primarily, and in terms of their aim to improve the atmosphere then (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 10, 13:28:24
- I don't mind it in spells when the crowd is quiet but the trouble is it (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 10, 12:52:25
- Loved the Brentford atmosphere, until a few hours later and Farke was sacked 😥 (n/m) (General Chat) - NorskyNormann, Jan 10, 12:53:27
- Where do people stand on the Sargent songs? (n/m) (General Chat) - WalksietheReturn, Jan 10, 12:24:46
- What were the Sargent songs? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 10, 13:32:20
- unhelpful to anyone and anything. (General Chat) - munter, Jan 10, 12:42:32
- The blokes got a yellow shirt on, whatever I think or say after, but during the game I try (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jan 10, 12:30:19
- He might be limited (don't pile in on this choice of word) (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Jan 10, 13:20:02
- How big was the group? (n/m) (General Chat) - Adster, Jan 10, 12:24:25
- About 30 in the core of it. All between the ages of 16-25 from what I could tell. (n/m) (General Chat) - WalksietheReturn, Jan 10, 12:25:22
- I "assume" the same lot who enjoy throwing £5 a pint beer over themselves in the concourse (n/m) (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jan 10, 12:33:10
- Encountered some of them near London Bridge pre-match (General Chat) - s10 yellow, Jan 10, 12:29:23
- I was bemused by the "Delia Sell the club" chanting...But who to? (General Chat) - Ruttles, Jan 10, 15:09:45
- Well they sound awful (n/m) (General Chat) - Adster, Jan 10, 12:35:12
- ...are they at most away games now? I've not been to one for ages (n/m) (General Chat) - Adster, Jan 10, 12:35:58
- Yes. Certainly the London one anyway. (General Chat) - munter, Jan 10, 12:41:08
- Probably think they're getting a rep (General Chat) - APB, Jan 10, 12:54:21
- #ILTFY (n/m) (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jan 10, 13:01:27
- Is this something Webber could do something about maybe? (n/m) (General Chat) - NorskyNormann, Jan 10, 12:52:24
- I'd imagine they will get sorted out at Wolves, hopefully (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 10, 14:55:54
- The Yam Yam Army (n/m) (General Chat) - NorskyNormann, Jan 10, 17:06:51
- I'd imagine they will get sorted out at Wolves, hopefully (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 10, 14:55:54
- Probably think they're getting a rep (General Chat) - APB, Jan 10, 12:54:21
- Yes. Certainly the London one anyway. (General Chat) - munter, Jan 10, 12:41:08
- ...are they at most away games now? I've not been to one for ages (n/m) (General Chat) - Adster, Jan 10, 12:35:58
- About 30 in the core of it. All between the ages of 16-25 from what I could tell. (n/m) (General Chat) - WalksietheReturn, Jan 10, 12:25:22
- Whoever the drummers are/is, they need to be politely told to stop (n/m) (General Chat) - DH Yellow, Jan 10, 11:11:37
- I tried to discourage it on the pre match facebook post.... of course (General Chat) - promethian1, Jan 10, 12:39:59
- Well done. If they’re at West Ham I will make my point to them. (n/m) (General Chat) - DH Yellow, Jan 10, 12:45:27
- I'm sure if they are at West Ham by the time the game starts the drum would have been (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jan 10, 12:53:16
- Danny Dyer (n/m) (General Chat) - NorskyNormann, Jan 10, 12:54:46
- I'm sure if they are at West Ham by the time the game starts the drum would have been (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jan 10, 12:53:16
- Well done. If they’re at West Ham I will make my point to them. (n/m) (General Chat) - DH Yellow, Jan 10, 12:45:27
- I tried to discourage it on the pre match facebook post.... of course (General Chat) - promethian1, Jan 10, 12:39:59
- Morph suits. (n/m) (General Chat) - MIKEWALKER, Jan 10, 11:06:53
- Werthers for me! (n/m) (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jan 10, 11:09:39
- Glad it's not just me (General Chat) - Azteca, Jan 10, 11:03:57
- I agree (General Chat) - BungysPie, Jan 10, 11:43:05
- Yep agree, just cringeworthy. God knows how these lot would have reacted during the (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jan 10, 11:08:46
- This ^^^ definitely ... it's a no to drums from me, Clive (General Chat) - Worthing Yellow, Jan 10, 11:01:56
- Yes, gallows humour has to be funny (General Chat) - jamesward, Jan 10, 10:59:22
- The pretending we scored at Palace (General Chat) - Thorpey_C, Jan 10, 11:12:55
- It was embarrassing (General Chat) - Thorpey_C, Jan 10, 10:58:05
- There's some pretty depressing stuff on Twitter about sexist abuse too. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 10, 10:57:22
- Saw some on here yesterday too about women can’t win FA Cups etc (n/m) (General Chat) - NorskyNormann, Jan 10, 11:35:32
- Well, to be fair, they had a point. (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 10, 12:14:32
- The trophies look similar and both called the FA Cup though (General Chat) - NorskyNormann, Jan 10, 12:27:21
- Serious answer from my pov (General Chat) - camcan, Jan 10, 12:55:45
- Interesting. Thanks (n/m) (General Chat) - NorskyNormann, Jan 10, 12:56:42
- 'You've won the FA Cup' would have been fine. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 10, 12:48:21
- 👍🏼 (n/m) (General Chat) - NorskyNormann, Jan 10, 12:56:58
- Serious answer from my pov (General Chat) - camcan, Jan 10, 12:55:45
- The trophies look similar and both called the FA Cup though (General Chat) - NorskyNormann, Jan 10, 12:27:21
- Women can win Women's FA Cups (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Jan 10, 12:04:12
- They could rename the FA Cup to the Men's FA Cup I suppose, but that's probably no (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Jan 10, 12:06:44
- I made the initial glib comment yesterday, (General Chat) - KevinBond, Jan 10, 14:37:28
- They could rename the FA Cup to the Men's FA Cup I suppose, but that's probably no (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Jan 10, 12:06:44
- Well, to be fair, they had a point. (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 10, 12:14:32
- I saw them trying to kick off after the game but the Charlton guys were not interested. (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jan 10, 11:11:56
- Saw some on here yesterday too about women can’t win FA Cups etc (n/m) (General Chat) - NorskyNormann, Jan 10, 11:35:32
- and the ole's against a league one side that had bettered us most of the game (General Chat) - Tombs, Jan 10, 10:57:22
- I wasn't there yesterday, thankfully by the sounds of it, but sounds like a wannabe firm (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 10, 14:28:38
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