I think daylight would be better than the current situation because

personally I don't think people want to see goals ruled out because some body part happens to be half an inch in front of the defender or because one player is sticking and arm or a leg out. I think it would see more goals currently being ruled out stand which would be a good thing.

But yes it wouldn't completely eradicate the current issue because if you continue to use a narrow line with no margin for error you are still going to get that sort of anomaly.

I think they have calculated that (and forgive me as I don't have the numbers to hand so these may not be 100% right) if you expand the lines to 10cm and allow anything where there is overlap then something like 10 of the 16 goals that have been disallowed for these types of marginal offsides this season would have stood, if you make it 15cm then about 2 more and if its 20cm then it was another 1 (or something like that). the conclusion being that widening the lines to 10cm would have seen about 2/3rds of the more controversially disallowed goals stand. I think that would be better.

Posted By: Jim on February 19th 2020 at 09:57:36

Message Thread

New offside rule? (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 08:29:45
- How about removing offside, would have more goals (n/m) (Other Football) - Kar1, Feb 19, 10:31:13
  - I quite like the idea of slightly bigger goals (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Feb 19, 11:16:45
    - Tettey's shot might have gone in (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Feb 19, 11:38:45
  - And make the goals bigger (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 10:35:54
    - I once saw one of Edward VIII’s suits in the Burlington Arcade, it was minuscule (n/m) (Other Football) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 19, 11:13:45
      - Yeah, the suits of armour from out of the Middle Ages are really small too. (n/m) (Other Football) - Huge Small, Feb 19, 11:18:09
- I think tennis players should use fish.... (Other Football) - yellowman, Feb 19, 09:51:17
  - I have 2 bream in the fridge (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:53:13
- Daylight rule is not an improvement, just a different set of controversies (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Feb 19, 09:41:41
  - Although would favour the attacker rather than defender (n/m) (Other Football) - CWC, Feb 19, 10:05:16
    - And end the art of defenders playing for offside (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 10:22:36
    - Having hands favours the goalkeeper over outfield players shall we chop those off? (Other Football) - Tombs, Feb 19, 10:14:22
      - This isn’t about VAR, it’s about a proposed rule change which would be a fundamental (Other Football) - Old Git, Feb 19, 10:30:53
    - 👍🏻 (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Feb 19, 10:13:49
- Hmm. I preferred the suggestion that you just make the lines 10-20cm wide and (Other Football) - Jim, Feb 19, 09:20:12
  - So daylight could be good (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:27:21
    - I think daylight would be better than the current situation because (Other Football) - Jim, Feb 19, 09:57:36
      - But you cant (shouldnt) have one rule that works for VAR (Other Football) - CWC, Feb 19, 11:23:19
        
        Well I guess the rule stays the same but they are applying a margin of error for (Other Football) - Jim, Feb 19, 12:51:35
  - make it so for it to be offside (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 19, 09:25:02
    - Daylight between defender’s nose and attacker’s back of their head (n/m) (Other Football) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 19, 09:27:19
- Excellent news if approved (Other Football) - Charles21, Feb 19, 09:12:28
  - What’s wrong with the current offside law? (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:15:18
    - Goals being disallowed for no justified reason (Other Football) - Charles21, Feb 19, 09:17:38
      - So instead we should have refs decide (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:23:38
        
        We should accept that the tech isn’t sufficiently accurate to make very marginal calls (Other Football) - Old Git, Feb 19, 09:41:06
        
        Which is essentially what the 10cm line proposal would do. (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Feb 19, 10:01:21
        
        The wolves player was over 10cm offside (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 10:05:25
        
        Which is far better than awarding goals for this (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:42:16
        
        I agree with you about the daylight rule, crazy idea (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Feb 19, 09:45:25
        
        No, we should have daylight, as wenger says (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Feb 19, 09:38:30
        
        So goals like this (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:42:50
        
        Yes, prefer that to goals disallowed (Other Football) - Charles21, Feb 19, 10:10:13
        
        Or ask both players, the attacker and defender and hope they’re honest. (n/m) (Other Football) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 19, 09:25:15
- they really need to define the exact part of the body that is offside (Other Football) - Kar1, Feb 19, 09:09:48
  - This isn’t anything to do with VAR is it? (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:12:40
    - Its an issue with the laws that has been highlighted by VAR really isn;t it (Other Football) - Jim, Feb 19, 09:21:50
      - I don’t see how it’s related (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:29:48
        
        Although the quotes from Wenger indicate it is (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:38:02
        
        Course its related to use of VAR because its the use of VAR in combination with the (Other Football) - Jim, Feb 19, 10:00:48
        
        I just fail to see how this change would make (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 10:03:28
        
        the game better with VAR (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 10:04:22
  - Make them all wear sensors. Like hawk eye (n/m) (Other Football) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 19, 09:11:28
    - perfect (n/m) (Other Football) - Kar1, Feb 19, 09:12:13
- That’s daft - you just move to a different contentious issue (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Feb 19, 09:00:15
  - ⏫ this (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Feb 19, 09:42:52
- This is flawed. What about night games. Will never be any daylight (n/m) (Other Football) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 19, 08:57:07
- Thats good (Other Football) - Ghost Ship Belly, Feb 19, 08:53:20
  - What do you think they’ll use to measure it? (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:00:47
    - yes i know (Other Football) - Ghost Ship Belly, Feb 19, 11:04:14
      - They won’t be irrelevant no - you penis (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 17:24:09
        
        You really are (Other Football) - Ghost Ship Belly, Feb 20, 13:23:00
    - Exactly - same issue just a different point of reference (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Feb 19, 09:06:20
      - They should bring this in and stop showing lines (Other Football) - Charles21, Feb 19, 09:16:01
        
        Almost all could be onside here (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:25:32
- relax, it's just footy (Other Football) - Tombs, Feb 19, 08:46:30
  - yes finding it funny was just that (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 08:54:16
    - have you really watched every single game in the prem? (Other Football) - Tombs, Feb 19, 08:58:41
      - Go for a walk ffs (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:04:48
        
        your really are so incredibly far up your own arse (Other Football) - Tombs, Feb 19, 09:11:57
- chaos galore gaurenteed if VAR is involved (Other Football) - grays, Feb 19, 08:36:15
  - enjoying VAR get nearly everything right (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 08:43:04
    - VAR is just an opinion (Other Football) - grays, Feb 19, 09:06:43
      - There are still subjective calls of course (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:09:40
        
        here is a fact (Other Football) - grays, Feb 19, 09:14:43
        
        Clear offsides, dives and handballs aren’t (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:19:49
        
        “Clear” (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Feb 19, 09:44:11
        
        Which is what everyone wanted VAR for (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:48:40
    - Be no different? Just a different line (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Feb 19, 08:44:03
      - Well it would be very different (Other Football) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 09:06:08
- That top picture of the VAR screen is Carrow Rd (n/m) (Other Football) - Trent_Canary, Feb 19, 08:33:52

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