A good mate of mine is a West Ham, season ticket holder

and (I think) really knows his football (was a good player himself, and coaches kids).

Anyway, I know that he really rates Rice. Thinks he's looked quality ever since he's got in the team.

My complaint isn't really about particular individuals. I'm sure each of them merits a chance, on their own. It's the balance and approach I don't like. So much emphasis on pace and athleticism - as someone says below, fine for qualifiers, but always the same problems when we play teams that keep the ball.

I know it seems early, but I do feel like I've seen this film before. The Maddison never playing thing has echoes of Hoddle 30+ years ago. Talented ball-playing midfielder just doesn't fit into the England way of playing, and we suffer for it.

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on November 14th 2019 at 13:00:58

Message Thread

Southgate may finally have to play Maddison tonight (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 14, 06:53:25
- Southgate will appear with a makeup scratch above his eye (n/m) (Other Football) - Augustus Pablo, Nov 14, 11:05:34
- Leaving him out starts to make Southgate look silly (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Nov 14, 10:02:54
  - I agree. (Other Football) - MORDENCANARY, Nov 14, 10:35:04
    - Southgate has done ok (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Nov 14, 11:23:03
- erm, haven't we already qualified? (Other Football) - Tombs, Nov 14, 09:27:39
  - We need 1 point to qualify (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 14, 09:32:31
    - republic v kosova actually might be a more attractive game to watch (Other Football) - Tombs, Nov 14, 09:38:29
      - republic of czechia (n/m) (Other Football) - Tombs, Nov 14, 09:39:34
  - just need a draw tonight (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 09:29:02
    - googles "who are angleterre playing tonight?"..... (Other Football) - Tombs, Nov 14, 09:34:49
- I wonder if we had England appearances written in as a bonus clause in (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 14, 08:40:19
  - I’m sure there will be a payment due (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 14, 09:34:42
  - Well if it's not, all this wroth froth is for nowt innit (n/m) (Other Football) - CauldRon, Nov 14, 08:41:46
    - To be honest i don’t care about the bonus side of things (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 14, 09:36:10
    - My frothing isn't about bonuses for NCFC (though they would be nice) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 14, 08:44:33
      - (he needs to be "high-performance, low maintenance" was the quote, in fact) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 14, 08:46:26
        
        Quite a few accounts that he's a bit of a bellend (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 14, 09:24:42
        
        'Bellend' is an insult that isn't used enough. Perfect for this usage. (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 14, 11:32:44
        
        british people hold humility in very high regard (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Nov 14, 10:07:04
        
        I agree he's what we need (Other Football) - CauldRon, Nov 14, 08:49:22
        
        Southgate is a modern day dinosaur (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Nov 14, 10:04:28
        
        Speculation seems to be that it'll be Winks, Mount and Rice in midfield (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 14, 08:53:06
        
        It’s annoying that Mount has been allowed to steal a march on him (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 14, 09:38:05
        
        Not seen what the fuss is about Rice yet (Other Football) - CauldRon, Nov 14, 08:55:41
        
        Ben Godfrey would be as good in midfield as Rice, if not better (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 14, 11:44:29
        
        A good mate of mine is a West Ham, season ticket holder (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 14, 13:00:58
        
        To be fair, I have seen Rice play a couple of good games for West Ham (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 14, 13:05:39
- Doubt it. Or if he does... (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 14, 08:34:12
  - Interestingly he’s now saying that the way Rodgers has Leicester playing is (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 14, 09:34:18
    - they are playing montenegro, it'd be some going to be a bit shit v them (Other Football) - Tombs, Nov 14, 09:46:21
      - perfect game for him really at home v dross (Other Football) - Tombs, Nov 14, 09:49:19
    - All this nonsense about how Maddison is a pure number 10 (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 14, 09:42:02
  - Madders will play and set the stage alight. (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 14, 08:40:37
- He'd probably beg Lampard or Gerrard to come out of retirement (Other Football) - Trent_Canary, Nov 14, 07:29:38
- Actually it appears Mount not injured so maybe not (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 14, 07:05:32

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