this is a good read on that very point

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Long old read, and a bit rambly in places, but it's worth persevering with

Difficult to see any sort of rapprochement with Europe under this particular Government.

(not that the future is any rosier politically if we don't come out until demographics in the UK shift the debate on Europe. We've got at least a generation of this s**t)

Posted By: CWC on September 2nd 2019 at 13:40:47

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Another rousing speech from Corbyn this morning (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 11:47:21
- Why is it that just about everything he says (General Chat) - Highlander, Sep 2, 13:15:50
  - What’s idiotic about it? Defending people who sexually and physically abuse lesbians (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 2, 16:06:24
  - Because you're looking at it from your extreme far-right perspective? (n/m) (General Chat) - FreshBlood, Sep 2, 14:27:42
    - That doesn't make sense. From a far right perspective it would be centre (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 14:31:19
  - I don't think it's idiotic (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 13:20:28
    - your point about the living wage (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 2, 13:31:58
      - Which is entirely against Labour's policy of protecting jobs... (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 13:33:12
        
        When the minimum wage was introduced it was met with hostility. (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Sep 2, 13:38:38
        
        Well america and their $15 has already shown the mass loss of jobs (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 13:45:33
        
        people have been made redundant and had hours reduced (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 2, 13:45:10
- Actions of a dictator.... (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Sep 2, 12:55:57
  - Both the Tory and Labour leadership then (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 12:57:41
    - Yep. (n/m) (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 2, 13:06:17
      - Jesus Christ ? (n/m) (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Sep 2, 13:10:13
        
        I don't think he's one of them is he? (n/m) (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 2, 13:14:28
        
        though one of them thinks they are (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 2, 13:15:53
      - I do believe though that if JC entered government it would be far worse (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 13:08:19
        
        He would certainly (General Chat) - Highlander, Sep 2, 18:40:16
        
        Hard to imagine anything worse. But Agent Corbyn certainly isn't the answer (n/m) (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 2, 13:16:36
        
        And Swivel eyed Swinson also not the answer (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 13:20:50
- The only way to stop Boris in his dictator like tracks is .... (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Sep 2, 12:30:42
  - Yep. (n/m) (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 2, 13:06:43
  - You're probably right, I think something like the Father & Mother of House (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 12:51:17
    - None of the options solve it (General Chat) - duke of york, Sep 2, 12:56:19
      - this is a good read on that very point (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 2, 13:40:47
      - Of course but it has to be decisive. Leave or revoke on Nov 1 (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 13:00:57
        
        I agree ,I would vote for a centrist party. (n/m) (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Sep 2, 13:07:55
        
        I think most people would. unfortunately in this day and age (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 13:10:11
  - A vote of no confidence? (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 2, 12:32:35
    - Sort of irrelevant. It won't pass anyway as not enough support (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 12:53:57
      - There would easily be enough support if Corbyn fell on his sword. (n/m) (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Sep 2, 13:28:31
        
        But who do you replace him with. Labour cabinet all very extreme left (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 13:30:03
    - A simple vote of no confidence wouldn't work (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Sep 2, 12:49:56
    - Indeed, except there is a lot of noise that he would be happy to ignore such a vite (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Sep 2, 12:49:10
    - But if his elected representatives vote against him he will fire them (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Sep 2, 12:49:08
    - details (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 2, 12:48:23
      - Corbyn has been demonised by the press. (n/m) (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Sep 2, 13:25:25
        
        He hasn't exactly made it difficult though (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 13:26:48
      - Well that doesn't help anyone as then house prices plummet (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 12:55:48
        
        exaclty (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 2, 13:09:51
        
        So no one wants Labour (in it's current form) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 13:12:07
        
        fat fingers " exactly" (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 2, 13:10:32
- No politics please (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Sep 2, 11:49:37
  - Well this is a pretty crucial time this week. Can't just bury your head in the sand (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 11:51:06
    - Indeed but I am on a football message board not a politics boatd (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Sep 2, 12:34:35
      - Then feel free to ignore it (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 2, 12:49:09

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