Because...
in 2002 and 2004 my view was that he was learning and/or on limited resources, and hoped that exposure to Premiership standard football and having higher transfer budget would enable him to play proper passing football and not hoof-it-forward and drop everyone behind the ball every time we go ahead. I thought it would give him the opportunity to create a team that could (shock! horror!) keep possession of the ball. But he hasn't learned anything - he STILL things "hard work" and running about at a frenetic pace is the answer to everything.
He used to be a very limited tactical manager who was a great motivator. I hoped he'd improve the tactical side.
Instead he's still a very limited tactical manager but has lost his motivational abilities. So now he isn't good at anything.
As a young manager it was worth giving him a go but he doesn't have what it takes at the top level and doesn't seem interested in learning, simply in regurgitating the old "work ethic" dogma (which is clearly too ingrained to change).
Quite simply, there's no future in him so dragging out his departure is pointless.
Posted By: mr carra on March 2nd 2006 at 10:32:41
Message Thread
- Why weren't you (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:11:22
- HOW MANY MORE TIMES??! It's not necessarily about promotion or league position though is (NCFC) - malkybarkid, Mar 2, 10:52:19
- YES IT IS!!!!!! (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:53:09
- no i wouldnt complain... but we have BETTER PLAYERS THAN HOOFBALL!! or at least we ought (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 11:00:56
- *sigh* wrong - I detest watching awful football. (n/m) (NCFC) - malkybarkid, Mar 2, 10:54:47
- YES IT IS!!!!!! (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:53:09
- I've never thought he was any good (NCFC) - Jonny 5 is alive, Mar 2, 10:46:10
- he is certainly no premiership manager and was totally out of his depth (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:52:03
- But he'd never done it before. (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:54:54
- Oh please (NCFC) - Jonny 5 is alive, Mar 2, 10:59:25
- I have to agree mate... The holt situation was a disgrace - even before we got promoted (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 11:03:06
- I'd never laid a patio before... (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 11:02:38
- did it take you 20 months (NCFC) - Jonny 5 is alive, Mar 2, 11:09:58
- or done wrong even! (n/m) (NCFC) - Jonny 5 is alive, Mar 2, 11:10:29
- It's not right even now, nearly 3 years later. (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 11:18:41
- or done wrong even! (n/m) (NCFC) - Jonny 5 is alive, Mar 2, 11:10:29
- did it take you 20 months (NCFC) - Jonny 5 is alive, Mar 2, 11:09:58
- Oh please (NCFC) - Jonny 5 is alive, Mar 2, 10:59:25
- But he'd never done it before. (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:54:54
- he is certainly no premiership manager and was totally out of his depth (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:52:03
- You won't have to be a loner for much longer, Bertie! (NCFC) - Highlander, Mar 2, 10:43:46
- See ? Skipper has wound the fans up so that the protests continue. (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:50:02
- Highlander the insider!!! (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:44:33
- Correct BB! (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 10:56:33
- Really ? Who ? (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:57:50
- Correct BB! (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 10:56:33
- every manager has a shelf life - what do you want hiom here for 10 years (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:24:20
- 20 years then - regardless of results and performances?? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:30:01
- ok then till he kicks the bucket!! (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:32:54
- ok 2 more years is that enough?? regardless of results and performances (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:33:54
- ok then till he kicks the bucket!! (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:32:54
- 20 years then - regardless of results and performances?? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:30:01
- Not what you said yesterday! (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 10:18:39
- Anyone would think you are in the dressing room Jim (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:24:06
- Again you make false assumptions BB. (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 10:36:44
- are in M I 5? (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:41:20
- No... (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 10:49:09
- Do you think there is going to be more vocal... (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:50:50
- niow its in the papers probably - people are swayed by the media (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 11:05:17
- I'm afraid so... (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 10:55:01
- Undoubtedly. (NCFC) - BeverlyHills0201, Mar 2, 10:54:12
- Would be funny if we won 6-0 though. Would again take some of the wind out their sails... (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:56:02
- For a couple of games maybe Scott... (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 11:02:01
- Again, I agree. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 11:12:18
- Not at all funny. (NCFC) - BeverlyHills0201, Mar 2, 10:58:04
- No, I agree. (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 11:01:04
- Nope! (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 11:14:41
- then its leeds away and sheff utd at home - i think that could be the killer..... (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 11:06:09
- No, I agree. (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 11:01:04
- For a couple of games maybe Scott... (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 11:02:01
- Would be funny if we won 6-0 though. Would again take some of the wind out their sails... (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:56:02
- Do you think there is going to be more vocal... (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:50:50
- Re: surely we all have blind faith in NCFC (NCFC) - BeverlyHills0201, Mar 2, 10:45:24
- Why do you think the board, Delia etc (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:47:07
- delia and nige seem far to chummy.. would you sack a good friend?? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 11:00:09
- Didn't answer that question. (NCFC) - BeverlyHills0201, Mar 2, 10:50:14
- Why do you think the board, Delia etc (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:47:07
- No... (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 10:49:09
- That's why he's little more than a troll. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 2, 10:38:49
- Nah... (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 10:43:17
- You wouldn't want me on here all day would you? (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:42:42
- I really couldn't give a fuck either way. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 2, 10:46:01
- are in M I 5? (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:41:20
- and look at the team on the pitch asshole, shit.. still shit after 40 games with no signs (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:27:52
- Again you make false assumptions BB. (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 10:36:44
- I AM consistent. We're not going to get relegated... (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:20:57
- How do you KNOW we're NOT going to get relegated? (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 10:27:22
- Worthy In!!! (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:30:57
- pretty fucking bad mate, play-offs impossible in february behind (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:32:18
- Yes not great at the moment, but it WILL get better... (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:35:19
- HOW is it going to get better???? (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 10:39:05
- he is past it at city, you give me a SINGLE sign of improvement just 1 from this season?? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:37:12
- Gary Doherty.... (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:43:54
- he has lost weight, been played on the right side and found his level perhaps.... (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:51:06
- That does frustrate me, I'd like to see more of (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:54:14
- I dunno bertie, every manager has his time, maybe Nigels is up. (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:59:23
- Won't happen. (NCFC) - BeverlyHills0201, Mar 2, 10:56:41
- That does frustrate me, I'd like to see more of (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:54:14
- he has lost weight, been played on the right side and found his level perhaps.... (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:51:06
- Gary Doherty.... (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:43:54
- Yes not great at the moment, but it WILL get better... (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:35:19
- deep shit (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:31:09
- pretty fucking bad mate, play-offs impossible in february behind (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:32:18
- Worthy In!!! (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:30:57
- what has he done to prove he can?? whinge at huckerby after we win!!! (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:25:55
- Sorry, who signed Huckerby again??? (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:27:22
- who signed libbra you twat and hoofed the ball at him!!! who signed erny and hoofed it at (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:29:17
- Cracking goal against Man City though wasn't it? (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:33:22
- It was!!! shame worthy told him less of the flicks and tricks!! then told him to (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:35:11
- hold the ball up better marc - no flicks and tricks - FLICKS AND TRICKS WAS HIS GAME!! (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:36:31
- It was!!! shame worthy told him less of the flicks and tricks!! then told him to (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:35:11
- Cracking goal against Man City though wasn't it? (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:33:22
- who signed libbra you twat and hoofed the ball at him!!! who signed erny and hoofed it at (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:29:17
- Sorry, who signed Huckerby again??? (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:27:22
- How do you KNOW we're NOT going to get relegated? (NCFC) - Jim Nasium, Mar 2, 10:27:22
- Anyone would think you are in the dressing room Jim (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:24:06
- What a complete load of drivel... (NCFC) - Squirrel, Mar 2, 10:17:25
- Fuck off Bertie. You must be thick as shit! We are fed up of explaining it to you. (n/m) (NCFC) - Norfolk Coast, Mar 2, 10:17:00
- Explain why you didn't shout Worthy out in 2002 and 2004 (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:18:46
- Because... (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 10:32:41
- Thank you for explaining.... (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:37:54
- Re: he know's what it takes to get NCFC running sweetly on the pitch again (NCFC) - BeverlyHills0201, Mar 2, 10:51:24
- Only flashes, but I'm always hoping for more. (n/m) (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:52:20
- Re: he know's what it takes to get NCFC running sweetly on the pitch again (NCFC) - BeverlyHills0201, Mar 2, 10:51:24
- Thank you for explaining.... (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:37:54
- Im not explaining it again you fucking retard! (n/m) (NCFC) - Norfolk Coast, Mar 2, 10:19:28
- Explain.... (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:24:44
- RETARD! RETARD! RETARD! (n/m) (NCFC) - Norfolk Coast, Mar 2, 10:25:35
- That doesn't explain much... (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:26:34
- Stephen Fry couldnt explain much to a fuckin retard like you. (n/m) (NCFC) - Norfolk Coast, Mar 2, 10:29:12
- Mr carra did. (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:39:07
- Looking at your comments I can see that you like the one line stir them up approach so... (NCFC) - Norfolk Coast, Mar 2, 10:43:52
- Mr carra did. (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:39:07
- Stephen Fry couldnt explain much to a fuckin retard like you. (n/m) (NCFC) - Norfolk Coast, Mar 2, 10:29:12
- That doesn't explain much... (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:26:34
- RETARD! RETARD! RETARD! (n/m) (NCFC) - Norfolk Coast, Mar 2, 10:25:35
- Explain.... (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:24:44
- Because... (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 10:32:41
- Explain why you didn't shout Worthy out in 2002 and 2004 (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:18:46
- He has been right, but this is as bad as some of the WOers... (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:16:38
- Oops - that should have been below my Hicks-sending compadre below... (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:17:21
- I'll be sending those track tonight. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 2, 10:18:54
- You are a lovely bloke, despite what they say... (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:20:34
- No, don't think so. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 2, 10:25:37
- Read above with just headlines....... (n/m) (NCFC) - BeverlyHills0201, Mar 2, 10:37:31
- OK, try... (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:32:30
- Rightho, will do. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 2, 10:34:22
- Yeah, prob is. (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:36:01
- Rightho, will do. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 2, 10:34:22
- No, don't think so. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 2, 10:25:37
- You are a lovely bloke, despite what they say... (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:20:34
- I'll be sending those track tonight. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 2, 10:18:54
- Oops - that should have been below my Hicks-sending compadre below... (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:17:21
- You're Wrong. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 2, 10:12:11
- why? (n/m) (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:14:52
- I don't intend debating the issue, dear boy ... (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 2, 10:16:04
- Worthy in! (n/m) (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:17:37
- Norwich Shit!! (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Mar 2, 10:33:13
- Worthy in! (n/m) (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:17:37
- I don't intend debating the issue, dear boy ... (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Mar 2, 10:16:04
- why? (n/m) (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:14:52
- Oh dear god (n/m) (NCFC) - DDiM, Mar 2, 10:12:02
- Oh dear god!! No sorry pal, he's got more important issues (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:14:14
- Kiss my aching chuddies (n/m) (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Mar 2, 10:17:21
- What's that going to do? (n/m) (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:19:10
- Soothe them of course... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Mar 2, 10:22:32
- Good luck to you. (n/m) (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:25:24
- Stop them aching, with any luck... (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:22:22
- Soothe them of course... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Mar 2, 10:22:32
- What's that going to do? (n/m) (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:19:10
- Kiss my aching chuddies (n/m) (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Mar 2, 10:17:21
- Oh dear god!! No sorry pal, he's got more important issues (NCFC) - Bertie Biggins, Mar 2, 10:14:14
- HOW MANY MORE TIMES??! It's not necessarily about promotion or league position though is (NCFC) - malkybarkid, Mar 2, 10:52:19
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