I find it hard to believe that he has actually used chemical warfare. It is simply not in

his best interests, and doesn't match what he's done before the "civil" (for it isn't) war. Even Saddam, who had been proven to have used them on the Kurds, didn't try it on the West. You know that using them brings condemnation from everywhere, including those you actually need in order to survive.

If they are being used, surely those deploying them are choosing them as a weapon of choice for a reason and as far as I am aware the one difference is, let's face it, pretty disastrous PR. It all smells rather fishy to me.

He's been brutal before (such as killing those responsible for massacres of Christians) but before the war it was mostly aimed at maintaining a secular state from his position as a minority Alewite in a majority Sunni country.

The ethics of arming and training the "freedom fighters" is rarely touched upon - they are largely Al Qaeda and other extremist Islamic groups. The genuine democracy-driven "rebels" were pretty much pushed out of the fight early.

Posted By: Steve in Holland on April 11th 2018 at 13:30:38

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Oh. (General Chat) - APB, Apr 11, 12:45:19
- "a gas killing animal" (General Chat) - mr carra, Apr 11, 13:11:42
  - I produced some killing gas this morning* (General Chat) - APB, Apr 11, 13:14:26
  - I think my shits have in the last few days. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 11, 13:13:40
    - Store them in a thermos (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Apr 11, 13:14:56
      - Or an old sock. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Apr 11, 13:52:05
        
        Wasn't that the famous scene from Scum? (General Chat) - APB, Apr 11, 13:56:46
- I am genuinely baffled by the ethics of this (General Chat) - Old Git, Apr 11, 13:06:05
  - Suspect it is as gas is classed as a weapon of mass destruction? (General Chat) - avenging canary, Apr 11, 15:56:05
  - I find it hard to believe that he has actually used chemical warfare. It is simply not in (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Apr 11, 13:30:38
    - the reason they are being used (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 11, 16:58:35
  - Not having read up on it or anything, does it derive from the use of chemical weapons ... (General Chat) - APB, Apr 11, 13:10:56
    - here we go, good old Beeb has done us an explainer (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 11, 13:18:51
      - Cheers Ralf. I’m with Thomas Nash, though (General Chat) - Old Git, Apr 11, 13:28:15
        
        i think the bloke that survived a chemical attack deserves a say (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 11, 13:41:01
        
        How about Napalm? Or drone strikes which you don't even know are coming? (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Apr 11, 13:48:16
        
        How about atom bombs on civilian targets? Firebombing Dresden? (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Apr 11, 13:49:43
        
        i don't Steve. what about them? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 11, 13:55:12
        
        “This whole argument is not over morality, merely degrees of obscenit (General Chat) - Old Git, Apr 11, 14:48:28
        
        aye, that's a line i can agree with (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 11, 15:35:39
        
        Yep, decent that. (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Apr 11, 15:15:05
        
        Wouldn't both of those be considered in the same bracket, or worse, than chemical now? (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Apr 11, 13:54:41
        
        Well I don't know. The USA has pulled back on its commitment to reduce (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Apr 11, 14:03:08
        
        Come on Steve, if Trump actually used one you know what the reaction would be a rightly so (General Chat) - megson, Apr 11, 15:12:23
        
        ^^^ this here (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 11, 15:32:35
    - perhaps it's the amount of extra suffering that goes with chemical weapons (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 11, 13:14:56
      - Wikipedia on chemicals (General Chat) - APB, Apr 11, 13:18:30
        
        So if those figures are corroborated, it asks some strange questions: (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Apr 11, 13:36:55
  - PS Syrian people, please don't ask us to help you if you're lucky enough to escape (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Apr 11, 13:10:35
    - That too (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Apr 11, 13:38:16
- What a bloody mess. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 11, 12:51:44

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