It does depend who we're playing though.

Being delighted with a draw, say, in the 3rd round of the FA Cup against Chelsea in 2001-2 wouldn't have been unambitious or unreasonable. Same goes to Spurs and Newcastle away last season.

Being delighted with a draw at home to Crewe, on the other hand ...

Posted By: Ottosson Foxtrot on February 9th 2006 at 12:29:06

Message Thread

Although it almost amounts to heresy (NCFC) - BillySteele, Feb 9, 11:53:36
- Wolves sacked Dave Jones (NCFC) - coldplay, Feb 9, 12:06:28
  - Ipswich improved greatly after sacking Burley ... (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Feb 9, 12:20:28
  - Chelsea sacked whathis name and where are they now? (NCFC) - worthy_out, Feb 9, 12:14:18
    - Um (NCFC) - coldplay, Feb 9, 12:17:23
      - Arsenal & Spurs also sold players for millions and their net outlay (NCFC) - worthy_out, Feb 9, 12:40:21
        
        Take Watford then - new manager Boothroyd - sold Webber, Hegulson (NCFC) - worthy_out, Feb 9, 12:41:34
        
        Take Preston then - new manager - Sold Healy & Etuhu and a winger went to Leeds (NCFC) - worthy_out, Feb 9, 12:42:54
  - Liverpool sacked Houllier after five years and won the champions league (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 12:09:28
    - Art of Management (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Feb 9, 12:58:34
    - i knew someone would say that (NCFC) - coldplay, Feb 9, 12:14:45
      - not much worse really (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 9, 12:48:01
      - I know (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 12:19:27
      - theres a reasonable chance of getting someone in who understands tactics and knows how to (NCFC) - worthy_out, Feb 9, 12:18:36
      - great point (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 12:18:03
        
        If he cared, he'd see what he's doing to it (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 12:20:52
        
        he does and he is trying to put it right... (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 12:22:10
        
        I admire his determination to pick up his wage and send the team down the toilet (n/m) (NCFC) - Hertz van Rental, Feb 9, 12:27:05
        
        how many seasons does it take to sign a good right midfielder/winger ? (n/m) (NCFC) - worthy_out, Feb 9, 12:44:28
        
        at least 5 it would seem (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 9, 12:49:10
        
        if he cares he should fuck off A SAP!!! (n/m) (NCFC) - jonah3000, Feb 9, 12:19:50
        
        So we don't want an ambitious manager then? (NCFC) - Squiggles, Feb 9, 12:19:48
        
        that's bollocks (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 12:21:11
        
        The fact is though... (NCFC) - Squiggles, Feb 9, 12:24:33
        
        worthy wants to win every game, how can you possibly think he doesn't!! (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 12:22:40
        
        and he plans for that does he? (n/m) (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 12:23:33
        
        I think after 5 years in charge, he hasn't the motivation to stop it from happening (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 12:24:52
        
        I think it's lack of wit rather than motivation. I'm sure it pisses him off! (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Feb 9, 12:25:29
        
        thats bollox... (NCFC) - jonah3000, Feb 9, 12:21:50
        
        when has he EVER actually said that.... (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 12:23:10
        
        I think various games actually prove that over the years, esp being 2 up (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 12:27:47
        
        That Palace away game is a myth... (NCFC) - Brandonio, Feb 9, 12:37:56
        
        spot on (NCFC) - megson, Feb 9, 12:59:15
        
        He's been "delighted" with getting a point after matches in the past... (n/m) (NCFC) - Squiggles, Feb 9, 12:25:42
        
        against Newc away, Spurs away, Midd home....i think we all were! (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 12:27:28
        
        games we either went behind in or got completley stuffed (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 12:32:19
        
        0-0? (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Feb 9, 12:38:30
        
        what's your point? (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 12:33:55
        
        of which Tottenham went away wondering how the hell they didn't win (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 12:37:09
        
        We had 2 great chances to score against Spurs in the last 5mins... (NCFC) - Brandonio, Feb 9, 12:43:17
        
        Gary Holt very nearly won that at the end, too. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Feb 9, 12:44:37
        
        Lest we forget (NCFC) - tiny rich cow, Feb 9, 12:57:16
        
        they still (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 12:52:21
        
        he can't win... (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 12:40:33
        
        I know he can't win, thats the whole point! (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 12:44:59
        
        What about the draw against Plymouth away... (NCFC) - Squiggles, Feb 9, 12:30:24
        
        Sometimes that isn't unreasonable, though, surely? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Feb 9, 12:26:11
        
        Yeah I know... (NCFC) - Squiggles, Feb 9, 12:27:35
        
        It does depend who we're playing though. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Feb 9, 12:29:06
        
        i think it's fair to say (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 12:32:42
        
        I want Worthington out as much as the next man ... (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Feb 9, 12:35:04
        
        nail on head! (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 12:36:58
        
        Plymouth away this season. (n/m) (NCFC) - Squiggles, Feb 9, 12:31:11
        
        I'll give you that one, obviously. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Feb 9, 12:32:59
      - There's no guarantee that things will improve under this management team either... (NCFC) - Squiggles, Feb 9, 12:16:55
      - could they really get worse though... (NCFC) - jonah3000, Feb 9, 12:16:50
    - sack him for fucks sake it can't get any worse!! (n/m) (NCFC) - jonah3000, Feb 9, 12:12:09
      - lets all sing 'It can only get better' with a new manager (n/m) (NCFC) - worthy_out, Feb 9, 12:19:21
- shut up and go away (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 11:58:34
  - sometimes its better to take a short term hit for a better medium to long term (n/m) (NCFC) - worthy_out, Feb 9, 12:15:28
  - I think he has a good point (NCFC) - Muz, Feb 9, 12:07:02
  - make your mind up (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 12:04:29
    - i want worthy to turn it round.... (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 12:16:16
      - how long do you want to give him? and how many more signings? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 12:21:47
        
        let's agree to disagree (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 12:25:44
        
        and you carry on having a go at people with the opposite view to you (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 12:34:29
        
        pot kettle black (NCFC) - coney, Feb 9, 12:38:25
        
        I think people have taken that view, and respected it, then watched the season (NCFC) - pants, Feb 9, 13:02:37
        
        Would you like to talk about anything? (NCFC) - tiny rich cow, Feb 9, 12:41:03
      - Just because you want him to doesn't mean he has the ability to do so... (NCFC) - Squiggles, Feb 9, 12:17:55
  - That's just stupid. (NCFC) - BillySteele, Feb 9, 12:03:10

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