Apparently there are two types of Labour voter causing this swing....

There are the traditional socialists, who are also pro-union and voted No in the referendum, but feel that Labour has abandoned its ideals etc and are only now transferring their votes to he SNP. So blame Blair and Brown for that.

Then there are the pro-independence Labour voters who voted Yes in the referendum, but are not returning to Labour now.

So the effect seen in the referendum is being accentuated by the first group above, mainly in Glasgow and the surrounding area, where most of the Scottish Labour seats are.

Posted By: Kirrie on May 7th 2015 at 11:07:20

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Voted on my way to work and for the first time ever, voted tactically. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 09:46:40
- SNP can't dictate aything. If they bought down a labout goverment and let the tories back (General Chat) - megson, May 7, 13:11:57
  - Oh really, you just watch if Labour have to rely on them. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 13:33:07
- That will make the square root of fuck all difference in Scotland (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 7, 10:00:33
  - In that case, we ALL need to worry - BMTP! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 10:07:37
    - Nope. Give them independence and the North of England can join them (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, May 7, 10:12:49
    - Yeah, poxy democracy (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 7, 10:11:01
      - You'll see how democratic it is if less than 10% of MPs, representing about 8% (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 10:24:41
        
        That's just FPTP in action (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 7, 10:27:22
        
        Yes, if they end up keeping Ed in power - we'e seen them in action first hand up here. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 10:35:18
        
        So you're going to vote Labour because you don't want Ed? (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 7, 10:45:16
        
        I have voted Labour beause I don't nt the SNP having any influence.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 10:53:15
        
        of course he does, he read it in the 'papers (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 7, 10:29:43
        
        Its a bot of a ,ess tho, you have to admit.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 10:33:37
        
        no, i don't think it is a mess really, it's just not what people are used to (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 7, 10:46:06
        
        But thats the trouble with any coalition.. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 11:09:21
        
        no, that's the problem with politics - see Tony Blair and his promise not to introduce (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 7, 11:19:26
        
        True i guess (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 11:27:11
      - That's a hangover from the independence referendum. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 10:16:48
        
        How come she's so popular down here then? They'd get a huge number of votes if they stood (General Chat) - CB41, May 7, 10:18:15
        
        Cos she comes across as representing people. That's the blinded view I've noticed (General Chat) - pants, May 7, 11:18:03
        
        But she hasn't, shes just another lwyer in politics and there's hundreds of them already. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 11:21:35
        
        Sure, but I think her background relates to the electorate (General Chat) - pants, May 7, 11:25:31
        
        You only here what sh says , their record up here is much less impressive..... (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 10:22:01
        
        Again though, if the record is so dreadful why has the popularity soared? (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 7, 10:24:56
        
        Because Scottish Labour and Jim Murphy in particular (General Chat) - caley canary, May 7, 10:35:10
        
        Cos labour have failed in scotland (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 10:29:05
        
        Undoubtedly many have transferred from Labour to the SNP (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 7, 10:34:18
        
        Labour voters who voted Yes to independence have stayed with the SNP. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 10:40:38
        
        So the hangover point is exactly the same as the first point? (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 7, 10:43:48
        
        Which one? (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 10:46:28
        
        I just mean the hangover point is the same as Labour voters transferring to SNP (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 7, 10:55:53
        
        Apparently there are two types of Labour voter causing this swing.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 11:07:20
        
        Exactly (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 11:10:35
        
        Many traditional gordon brown/labour voters voted for independance but didnt get it (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 10:37:35
        
        Correct on both counts. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 10:33:34
        
        No she wouldnt. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 10:21:44
  - Not necessarily alot of people up here cannot stand the sight of Sturgeon or the SNP.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 10:04:52
    - Not as frightening as another 5 years of Tory ideology (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, May 7, 10:35:45
      - More frightening for the longer term financial health of the country. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 10:42:48
- 1st ever tactical for me too; anything but Ed, his silly stone and the magic money tree (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, May 7, 09:59:21
  - ABC for me, the man's a (General Chat) - CB41, May 7, 10:11:24
- My first vote was 45 years ago for Ted Heath. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, May 7, 09:55:17
  - Ted Heath was a shapeshifting Lizard (General Chat) - maidstoneyellow, May 7, 10:32:38
    - Indeed and Wilson was a top Soviet Agent - The Daily Diana told me that (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, May 7, 10:41:03
  - you were old, so of course you voted Tory... (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 7, 09:58:14
    - Last time though. Ted was the last decent Tory leader. Went (General Chat) - CB41, May 7, 10:10:37
      - Fatcher was an ace leader.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 10:23:35
        
        She was an arrogant, self obsessed, bully who destroyed anyone who didn't agree (General Chat) - CB41, May 7, 11:42:14
        
        Always loved hr for the massive saary inceases she gave to the forces.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, May 7, 11:19:11
        
        Yep - the party that backed the forces (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 11:32:34
        
        and the Old Bill, perhaps she knew that there were going to be strikes where they'd be (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, May 7, 11:24:57
        
        I wasn't talking about leadership, I was refering to the "type" of (General Chat) - CB41, May 7, 10:39:47
        
        Some people say the same thing about Hitler.... (n/m) (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, May 7, 10:32:29
        
        Do they? (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 10:35:20

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