He's Scottish though.

And most of his article is bollocks, reflecting relationships between Scotland and England and their hatred of what they see as our arrogance.

However, in the main English supporters are just desperate for us to do well. Hope not expectation - and it is not unreasonable to think that we have a chance of doing ok fropm time to time.

We build up our hope, we collapse when we fail. That's football!!

As for our chances generally, well we've been very poor in the last two World Cups. However in 2002 we were one of the better sides in the competition - certainly better than Germany who reached the final thanks to a QF against USA and an SF against South Korea.

We knocked Argentina out, holders France went out early too and Italy/Spain lost to the Koreans.

30 years of hurt was a song for f**ks sake - and it's hardly arrogant to suggest that we've been failures for decades is it?

I hated the England team of 2010 but I'm not just going to give up. We have some decent young players who come across well, a manager who is a decent man and the most unlikeable players no longer involved.

No-one in this country *has* to love the team or be desperate for them to do well, but for you to cite the trollbait ramblings of a Scot as some kind of justification for your hatred of the England team (now neatly joined by your dislike of Norwich City, not far behind your dislike of the Olympics), is (not for the first time, let's face it) just plain weird.

However - when England are playing... any chance you could turn it in? Tensions will be heighetend and you don't care. That's fine. But can you just. Please. Turn it in?

Posted By: norway on June 10th 2014 at 13:32:36

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This guy nails how I've felt since about 1993. The only other time I've raised (Other Football) - pants, Jun 10, 12:50:06
- English people treated like sun newspaper... shocker.... (Other Football) - yellowman, Jun 10, 14:23:21
- He's Scottish though. (Other Football) - norway, Jun 10, 13:32:36
  - One of my favourite phrases (Other Football) - Darren Eadie, Jun 10, 13:41:58
    - Agree entirely (Other Football) - norway, Jun 10, 13:47:48
- I don't get the England bashing. I support two teams, England and Norwich. I'll watch them (Other Football) - thirsty work, Jun 10, 13:24:34
  - I realised recently the great aspect of watching streams. You usually get a commentary (Other Football) - pants, Jun 10, 13:28:03
    - gaI'm flying from Oz to UK just to watch the first couple ofmes in the pub with a few (Other Football) - thirsty work, Jun 10, 13:31:08
      - what happened there??? scrolly text error! (n/m) (Other Football) - thirsty work, Jun 10, 13:32:07
- Typical lazy English bashing (Other Football) - Grans_Canary, Jun 10, 13:06:31
  - It must exist, as is stated in the article (Other Football) - pants, Jun 10, 13:24:47
- I agree (Other Football) - Darren Eadie, Jun 10, 12:57:49
  - What's wrong with the current set up? (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jun 10, 13:52:23
    - Plenty of things in my book (Most of which I don't have the time to go into now) (Other Football) - Darren Eadie, Jun 10, 13:59:46
      - safe appointments such as Sven and Capello?? (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Jun 10, 17:17:12
        
        Yes they were fairly obvious appointments at the time (Other Football) - Darren Eadie, Jun 10, 17:56:08

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