We turned up late for our game at Villa Park that day. Pissed as c**ts.

We weren't alone. We were directed calmly into the Holte End and were directed and escorted by West Midlands coppers down to the front of the stand where there was loads of room, away from were we were trying to get to.

Football fans turned up late, pissed and without tickets al the time then. We were managed properly, tragically the Liverpool fans weren't.

That aside, even if as some seem desperate to believe, there were hordes of drunk Liverpool fans charging into the back of the Leppings Lane end, rathe than fans wanting to get in to see their team, who caused the problem, is it still OK to make comments like we've seen this afternoon (again) with respect to the ones that died?

Surely after all that has come out and how the cover up has been revealed anyone can see what the truth is. Unless they choose not to for bizarre personal reasons.

We were close to a similar problem at West Ham in the quarter final on the way out in the 'chicken run', it was frightening and pure luck nobody was badly injured.

Posted By: jafski on April 21st 2013 at 19:23:08

Message Thread

Rodgers not covering himself in glory here (n/m) (Other Football) - King, Apr 21, 18:16:35
- Tbf needs to speak to the PR guys and get the party line (n/m) (Other Football) - Duck, Apr 21, 18:27:52
  - Yep, that worked a treat on the whole racist thing last year (n/m) (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, Apr 21, 19:02:24
  - It was the comparison to the elbow on Carragher which I found risible (Other Football) - King, Apr 21, 18:57:03
  - well they still deny Heysel ever happened (n/m) (Other Football) - colincanary, Apr 21, 18:30:36
    - They're the victims now and have a certificate to prove it. (n/m) (Other Football) - Ben, Apr 21, 18:33:23
      - How old are you Ben? Old enough to remember Hillsborough or not? (n/m) (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 18:36:27
        
        He's not referring to Hillsborough. He's saying Heysel was LFC fans fault but is overlooke (Other Football) - col canary, Apr 21, 19:34:41
        
        And if course he is referring to Hillsborough... (Other Football) - Yellalee, Apr 21, 19:45:21
        
        He is referring to Hillsborough as he is trying to use the word 'victims' pejoratively. (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 19:43:52
        
        'Liverpool fans and the media fail to mention' (Other Football) - Yellalee, Apr 21, 19:40:41
        
        I was only about 8 (Other Football) - Ben, Apr 21, 19:05:46
        
        Just grief? Or also fighting a perceived (now proven beyond all refute) injustice? (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Apr 21, 19:08:51
        
        Surely they're different because Bradford fans weren't being wrongly blamed for the fire? (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, Apr 21, 19:08:35
        
        and now its time to move on. (n/m) (Other Football) - Ben, Apr 21, 19:11:27
        
        So the truth came out this year, and they should move on. (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, Apr 21, 19:13:11
        
        Because the truth came out before the latest truth came out (n/m) (Other Football) - Ben, Apr 21, 19:14:39
        
        People still haven't been brought to justice for their failings, lies and the cover up. (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 19:27:48
        
        I agree, those that lost relatives fought for the truth. (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 21, 20:42:38
        
        No reply, so I guess not. You don't remember how badly footy fans were treated in those (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 19:01:39
        
        I was with Conker in the pub last week. Would imagine he didn't see you (Other Football) - Brom, Apr 21, 19:35:33
        
        We were right next to you at the very top of the decking, tried several times to catch his (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 19:39:09
        
        Pretty harsh to just assume without getting his side or thrip (n/m) (Other Football) - Brom, Apr 21, 19:41:32
        
        Balls. *side of the story. (Other Football) - Brom, Apr 21, 19:42:59
        
        Well, that's what it felt like. I always got on OK with him when I saw him before. (n/m) (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 19:45:02
        
        Probably best to check with him before making him out to be a c*** (n/m) (Other Football) - Brom, Apr 21, 19:45:55
        
        His views on Hillsborough are out there. I never called him a c**t. (n/m) (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 19:49:00
        
        Not seen his views on Hillsborough... (Other Football) - Brom, Apr 21, 19:53:11
        
        It's how it felt, he studiously ignored us. He came to mind as he expressed pretty similar (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 19:56:25
        
        Fair enough... (Other Football) - Brom, Apr 21, 19:57:25
        
        OK. (n/m) (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 19:59:03
        
        And are these pre-recent findings views? (n/m) (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 21, 19:54:07
        
        Rich you're a clever(ish) man.. (Other Football) - lurd, Apr 21, 19:08:21
        
        We turned up late for our game at Villa Park that day. Pissed as cunts. (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 19:23:08
        
        No absolutely not. (Other Football) - lurd, Apr 21, 19:29:49
        
        I won't mate, I love you. x (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 19:32:46
        
        He deleted me off of FB (Other Football) - lurd, Apr 21, 19:33:57
        
        He done a flounce on here and on the FB group. (n/m) (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 19:35:20
        
        but heysel is not linked (Other Football) - trt354, Apr 21, 19:27:43
        
        also my memory of that day (Other Football) - trt354, Apr 21, 19:32:19
        
        Yes, and as soon as Hillsborough is mentioned there's always a few utter cunts who bring (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 19:31:56
        
        I think it was you who brought it up (Other Football) - trt354, Apr 21, 19:40:52
        
        Heysel was brought up before Hillsborough. (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 21, 19:52:27
        
        You are a cunt though. No problem saying that. (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 20:26:45
        
        Cheers mate, not quite sure why I deserve such praise. (n/m) (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 21, 20:35:59
        
        I apologise to you too. (n/m) (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 20:38:33
        
        no need dude :) (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 21, 20:45:05
        
        think you need to calm down (Other Football) - earlydoors, Apr 21, 20:30:59
        
        Agreed. (n/m) (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 20:38:46
        
        Heysel was brought up first, but the subsequent post clearly referred to Hillsborough. (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 19:58:41
        
        Not sure I like being called a c**t (Other Football) - trt354, Apr 21, 20:12:58
        
        I apologise unreservedly for calling you that. Very sorry. (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 20:24:08
        
        no problem (Other Football) - trt354, Apr 21, 20:36:14
        
        *Everyone* travelled to games without tickets in the 80s. Everyone. (n/m) (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Apr 21, 19:10:31
        
        I've never seen any admission of this from Liverrpool fans (n/m) (Other Football) - lurd, Apr 21, 19:15:36
        
        My first two seasons watching Norwich were with a duplicate season ticket (n/m) (Other Football) - Ben, Apr 21, 19:12:22
        
        A friend of mine did that for season. I wonder how many dupliates they sent out (n/m) (Other Football) - Huge Small, Apr 21, 19:20:39
        
        And Heysel? (n/m) (Other Football) - phrankin, Apr 21, 19:06:13
        
        Just because Heysel happened doesn't affect Hillsborough. (Other Football) - megson, Apr 21, 20:42:03
      - Oh dear. (n/m) (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 18:34:36
      - Lovely. (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Apr 21, 18:34:09
    - Fucking hell. They don't btw. (n/m) (Other Football) - jafski, Apr 21, 18:33:12
    - FFS. (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Apr 21, 18:30:56
  - agreed (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Apr 21, 18:28:49

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